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North Carolina is experiencing a wave of immigration for folks fleeing high taxes, poor services, overpowered unions and regulations.
Yet it seems with the immigration the voice for the more liberal perspective has grown stronger.
Wasn't it this same mentality that essentially has caused to NY and NJ to fail the middle class?
Isn't our conservative re-worked tax structure the main draw for alot of these folks?
I'm not trying to say you should like HB2 here just that up there they are forging a path further and deeper to the left and the outcome seems to be that life doesn't work for regular folks so why should we want to do those things?
North Carolina is experiencing a wave of immigration for folks fleeing high taxes, poor services, overpowered unions and regulations.
Yet it seems with the immigration the voice for the more liberal perspective has grown stronger.
Wasn't it this same mentality that essentially has caused to NY and NJ to fail the middle class?
Isn't our conservative re-worked tax structure the main draw for alot of these folks?
I'm not trying to say you should like HB2 here just that up there they are forging a path further and deeper to the left and the outcome seems to be that life doesn't work for regular folks so why should we want to do those things?
Simply put. Many of us (myself included) prefers the mentality and built-environment of the north. However, we prefer the weather and cost of living in the south. The south is this way due to having a lesser dense population. It has very little to do with conservative southern politics.
If conservative values were attractive to transplants, then Mississippi and Alabama would be leaders in New South growth. It's actually the least conservative southern states (Florida, Virginia, NC, and Metro Atl Georgia) that are most attractive to new comers. These are also the most expensive southern states in which to live as well (due to population growth and economics linked to growth/density).
Simply put. Many of us (myself included) prefers the mentality and built-environment of the north. However, we prefer the weather and cost of living in the south. The south is this way due to having a lesser dense population. It has very little to do with conservative southern politics.
^^^^^ This, nobody relocates to NC because they love conservative government.
North Carolina is experiencing a wave of immigration for folks fleeing high taxes, poor services, overpowered unions and regulations.
Yet it seems with the immigration the voice for the more liberal perspective has grown stronger.
Wasn't it this same mentality that essentially has caused to NY and NJ to fail the middle class?
Isn't our conservative re-worked tax structure the main draw for alot of these folks?
I'm not trying to say you should like HB2 here just that up there they are forging a path further and deeper to the left and the outcome seems to be that life doesn't work for regular folks so why should we want to do those things?
Not all of us moved for all those reasons. My main reason for moving was work related. Yes I paid high taxes in CT but my children went to some of the best public schools in the country (can't say that here in NC)
My daughter went and would have gone to this middle school:
Services are poor in some areas but better in others. so I give that a 50-50. Unions & regulations I can't give my opinion on as I have no experience with them. As i see it the pendulum swung to far to the left in parts of the NE (VT, MA & NH are fine) and too far to the right in the South.
Do I miss the NE, yes. Do I like living here Yes. Both places have great things to offer, it just depends on what you are willing to make of it.
North Carolina is experiencing a wave of immigration for folks fleeing high taxes, poor services, overpowered unions and regulations.
Yet it seems with the immigration the voice for the more liberal perspective has grown stronger.
Wasn't it this same mentality that essentially has caused to NY and NJ to fail the middle class?
Isn't our conservative re-worked tax structure the main draw for alot of these folks?
I'm not trying to say you should like HB2 here just that up there they are forging a path further and deeper to the left and the outcome seems to be that life doesn't work for regular folks so why should we want to do those things?
Not seeing the logic because it's not a simple equation but a combination of factors. It simply cost more to live in large urban touristy centers like NYC, Philly, Boston, etc due to demand. Amenities, events, etc are on another level versus anywhere in the south. If you have access (mass transit, etc) to an abundance of options, you're going to have to pay for those privileges via taxes.
People also desire a slower pace of life (tired of the hustle/bustle), warmer climate, yardage, etc. But also take into account a significant salary discrepancy between similar jobs in NYC and NC, so COL savings isn't as magnified as touted.
Conservative re-worked tax structure? People from up north have been relocating to NC since the 70s/80s.
In reality, the NYC metro is still growing so it hasn't shut down nor has the middle class evaporated. I think it has more do with the south's warmer climate, slower pace and now job opportunities that are attracting some people to move here. As you migrate further from the large urban centers I think the COL, etc in those states is on par with most parts of the country. Most of NC's growth is attributable to two metros, so there is also a huge contingent of in-state migration from rural areas and those areas are suffering from that mass exodus.
Have you lived thru 25-60 Northern winters? It is about the climate.
The North has been migrating south since the advent of air conditioning. Man has known how to create heat for many a millennia but AC isn't 100 years old yet. Houston, Atlanta, Phoenix, Charlotte, etc. would never have become major metro areas without AC.
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Not seeing the logic because it's not a simple equation but a combination of factors. It simply cost more to live in large urban touristy centers like NYC, Philly, Boston, etc due to demand. Amenities, events, etc are on another level versus anywhere in the south. If you have access (mass transit, etc) to an abundance of options, you're going to have to pay for those privileges via taxes.
People also desire a slower pace of life (tired of the hustle/bustle), warmer climate, yardage, etc. But also take into account a significant salary discrepancy between similar jobs in NYC and NC, so COL savings isn't as magnified as touted.
Conservative re-worked tax structure? People from up north have been relocating to NC since the 70s/80s.
In reality, the NYC metro is still growing so it hasn't shut down nor has the middle class evaporated. I think it has more do with the south's warmer climate, slower pace and now job opportunities that are attracting some people to move here. As you migrate further from the large urban centers I think the COL, etc in those states is on par with most parts of the country. Most of NC's growth is attributable to two metros, so there is also a huge contingent of in-state migration from rural areas and those areas are suffering from that mass exodus.
So how do you cram asheville into charlotte or the triangle
Have you lived thru 25-60 Northern winters? It is about the climate.
I live in Boone for five years pretty cold, My sister in law lived in upstate NY she kinda opened my eyes saying the snow just never melted now THAT sucks
So how do you cram asheville into charlotte or the triangle
not to mention the coast....
And the tax policy creates the 'low' COL
As NC urban metros begin to mature and become more dense with other infrastructure upgrades, etc the COL will continue to escalate in those areas, just like the northern brethren. Also, these metros and urban areas tend to lean left or have moderate open door policies that attract new business and people.
NC's growth was initiated under Dem controlled GA, mostly DEM and mod GOP governors in the 70s/80s/90s. So no, the new tax policies aren't the reasons for heavy transplant relo or in-state migration to NCs larger urban metros.
Most people relocating to mountains or coast are retirees, which is small compared to the Triangle and Charlotte) which are the state's economic drivers.
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