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Old 04-12-2016, 12:54 PM
 
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Old 04-12-2016, 01:00 PM
 
Location: The Emerald City
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Well THAT is certainly interesting.
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Old 04-12-2016, 01:13 PM
 
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I would think all women and minorities would have a serious interest in this law as it affects them as well as gay and transgender people. It is a civil rights issue and dialing back the clock on civil rights is not the side of the issue most of the intelligent world wants to be on. They can try and back-peddle now but its clear to the rest of the world where the NC government stands. They already made their stand.
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Old 04-12-2016, 01:22 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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It has enough loopholes to drive a freight train through! What sounds like a reversal for some of the most odious provisions of HB2 are dependent on the NC legislature changing major pieces of HB2, which is not likely to happen! This gives Governor "Pander-to-Everyone, while doing nothing" political coverage to say in the fall, that he tried to do something to correct the bill, but the legislature wouldn't go along and "Hey, aren't I wonderful?" What a two-faced political liar he has become! Good-bye Pat! So long, and it wasn't good to know you!!!
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Old 04-12-2016, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Canada
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I would think all women and minorities would have a serious interest in this law as it affects them as well as gay and transgender people. It is a civil rights issue and dialing back the clock on civil rights is not the side of the issue most of the intelligent world wants to be on. They can try and back-peddle now but its clear to the rest of the world where the NC government stands. They already made their stand.
YEPPER~~ They CANNOT unring that "Bell" which truly exposes their intent and agenda! The back peddling is PROOF of their Biased approach and ignorance of the overreach by them and this Governor to SIGN it. These folks haven't evolved at all..IN fact these lawmakers are still living in the pre-Civil Rights era!

I guess $$ does talk, eh? Only back peddle when your actions hit the States "Pocketbook"
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Old 04-12-2016, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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It's a compromise. No one got everything. And I am perfectly fine so long as we can sweep this behind us and move on.
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Old 04-12-2016, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Baltimore MD/Durham NC
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Giving back local governments the right to have their own non-discrimination policies and expanding the state’s employment policy to cover sexual orientation and gender identity are big important steps.

However "Seeks legislation to reinstate" the right to sue in state court for discrimination, is just empty words. We will see if the assembly will actually do this.

It also doesn't mention the minimum wage issue that was included in HB2.
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Old 04-12-2016, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC
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Giving back local governments the right to have their own non-discrimination policies and expanding the state’s employment policy to cover sexual orientation and gender identity are big important steps.

However "Seeks legislation to reinstate" the right to sue in state court for discrimination, is just empty words. We will see if the assembly will actually do this.

It also doesn't mention the minimum wage issue that was included in HB2.
Nor should it. The minimum wage is a state mandated thing. Always has been.
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Old 04-12-2016, 01:58 PM
 
Location: The 12th State
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Agree, This executive order only allows local municipalities to set their own employment policies. Which is the way it should be verses dictating the private sector.

Here is the exact executive order before media with their own agenda misconstrues it.

EXECUTIVE ORDER NO. 93 TO PROTECT PRIVACY AND EQUALITY | State of North Carolina: Governor Pat McCrory
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Old 04-12-2016, 02:02 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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Clearly it's a politically crafted message that tries to walk a tight-rope over shark infested waters.
It gives a small nod to local communities and private business to have local control over their own hiring practices as it relates to non-discrimination based on equality but it doesn't do much else. Essentially, LGBTs may be able to be protected to get hired at a restaurant but not protected as a guest of that same restaurant. Said another way, it would appear that a gay person could be protected in hiring practices to work at a bakery that then refuses to bake a cake for a gay couple's wedding. Since there is no human rights' protection for the gay customer, how could they sue? There wouldn't be a legal basis.
Local communities can create protections in housing that goes beyond the state protections.
The biggest change seems to be his push for the upcoming short session to enable a right to sue in state court for grievances based on discrimination that they defined as protected. Again, no LGBT protection here.
He says nada about the minimum wage issue. Methinks this is really their sacred cow issue.
He repackaged the bathroom talking point with different words. No change there at all. He clearly wants the issue to just go away. It's doubtful that it will. It still puts trans people in a terrible position when they are at public entities like universities and need to pee.

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