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In your eyes. In theirs, perhaps it is. Open-minded, remember?
All rights hold a rational basis. I have no right to my neighbour's wife.
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When it comes to friends, family and lovers, I think rationality often takes an extended vacation.
I disagree. There are limits in all things. In friends, family and especially lovers. Are you saying with your SO, there are no boundaries? With your friends? With your family? A married couple may impose limits on their collective spending. A group of friends may impose limits regarding who hits on who in a bar. Family members may impose limits on which house of the room they have dinner. Relationships exist in understandings, any psychologist can say that.
You're essentially saying that in the human sphere, there are no skills in learning to relate with others. If so, then I guess I can punch people in the mall and get away with it, eh?
^Is your life an open book? Do you like having people watch everything you do? It's bad enough when you invite ONE person into your life to put you under the microscope, it's worse when it's people you have not invited to do so.
Who needs micromanagers?
I have a right to privacy. I don't expect to tell my family everything I do.
All rights hold a rational basis. I have no right to my neighbour's wife.
I think you're venturing now into religion and morality - a totally different topic, to be sure.
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I disagree. There are limits in all things. In friends, family and especially lovers. Are you saying with your SO, there are no boundaries? With your friends? With your family? A married couple may impose limits on their collective spending. A group of friends may impose limits regarding who hits on who in a bar. Family members may impose limits on which house of the room they have dinner. Relationships exist in understandings, any psychologist can say that.
Heh - yes, any pshrink can say that.
That doesn't make it true.
The only real limits that exist are those we place upon ourselves. All others are placed there by societal conditioning. With my SO, for example - who am I to place limits upon what she can do? If she truly loves me, she'll do the right thing, without my coaching. Ditto for my own actions. Again, theory and reality, but it's a goal to shoot for.
Lose the limits and you free yourself.
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You're essentially saying that in the human sphere, there are no skills in learning to relate with others. If so, then I guess I can punch people in the mall and get away with it, eh?
If I could only convince you of how many, many times I've seen that very thing happen...
I'm not quite sure I follow "there are no skills in learning to relate to others". Do you mean there is no advantage in it? No benefit? If so, then it all depends upon your level of interaction with people.
I think you're venturing now into religion and morality - a totally different topic, to be sure.
I am not venturing into religion.
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Heh - yes, any pshrink can say that.
That doesn't make it true.
Is your point true?
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The only real limits that exist are those we place upon ourselves. All others are placed there by societal conditioning. With my SO, for example - who am I to place limits upon what she can do? If she truly loves me, she'll do the right thing, without my coaching. Ditto for my own actions. Again, theory and reality, but it's a goal to shoot for.
In relationships, there are accepted boundaries of interaction. This is not contention. Is there are reasoned basis for your points, other than "just because"?
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Lose the limits and you free yourself.
If I could only convince you of how many, many times I've seen that very thing happen...
This seldom occurs. I have never seen it happen.
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I'm not quite sure I follow "there are no skills in learning to relate to others". Do you mean there is no advantage in it? No benefit? If so, then it all depends upon your level of interaction with people.
There are skills. In most scenarios there are norms of interaction. If you cannot challenge this, then so be it.
I have a right to privacy. I don't expect to tell my family everything I do.
Samston, I totally agree with you. That post was responding to the contention that people like us "have something to hide". The desire for privacy does not denote that we have "something to hide", we just have very private lives and choose not to let others into it. If we want them privy to something, we will volunteer the information. But, we PICK our friends or SOs, we do NOT pick our family members. There's a difference there.
When you speak of not having "rights" to your neighbor's wife, I assumed it was because she was married - a religious covenant.
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Is your point true?
Which one?
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In relationships, there are accepted boundaries of interaction. This is not contention. Is there are reasoned basis for your points, other than "just because"?
Sounds like the typical questions relatives/friends ask. They care enough to ask about what's going on in your life. As long as they are not being sarcastic or mean about it I don't see why it upsets you so.
Exactly!
Or, is it a case of ^^^???
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