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Old 12-03-2009, 11:12 PM
 
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Oh spare me the "disease" crap. Drinking alcohol to the point you screw up your life is a choice. Chemo isn't, it doesn't even compare. Don't be ridiculous, it isn't conducive to the discussion.
Sure, since you decided to spare yourself an education and the ability to read.

I went over the process of how it begins with a choice and develops into a disease. Go back and read the thread again.
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Old 12-03-2009, 11:14 PM
 
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Since when is a "disease" self-induced. The friend may be addicted, but she's chosen not to stop.
Idk, go have sex with a crack ***** and let me know what you end up with. I would call that a self-induced disease.
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Old 12-03-2009, 11:15 PM
 
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Managing alcoholism as a disease (http://www.physiciansnews.com/commentary/298wp.html - broken link)
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Old 12-03-2009, 11:16 PM
 
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FAQs for the General Public (http://www.niaaa.nih.gov/FAQs/General-English/ - broken link)
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Old 12-03-2009, 11:17 PM
 
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Alcohol and Public Health - FAQs
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Old 12-03-2009, 11:18 PM
 
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Alcoholism - MayoClinic.com
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Old 12-03-2009, 11:20 PM
 
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Old 12-03-2009, 11:36 PM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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Gosh, virgode. This is horrible. Can you tell me more? What do you mean by eventually it deteriorates their mental health, even with sobriety?
Ever see the commercials, this is your brain, this is your brain on drugs?

Same with alcohol abuse, your burning out brain cells, perceptions and reality, say goodbye to rational logical thinking process.

A beautiful, witty person gone, tragic.
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Old 12-04-2009, 05:34 AM
 
Location: St Thomas, US Virgin Islands
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Wow, yet another thread on the same subject. Could they possibly all be culled from this and other forums and combined in a special sub forum for easier reading?
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Old 12-04-2009, 05:52 AM
 
Location: Between Philadelphia and Allentown, PA
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missy said it right, if she doesn't want the help she isn't going to take it and further, you can't help someone who doesn't want to help themselves. She is obviously not ready to get serious about her addiction. Until she does, she will continue on the fast track to nowhere. As a friend you do need to draw the line but friends also need to give tough love sometimes. You need to tell her that until she gets serious about facing her addiction, getting help for it and all that - you cannot be her friend and supportive.
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