Nissan truck may get diesel engine (vehicle, 2014, motorcycle, credit)

[sailordave]

2014 Nissan Titan Getting Four-Cylinder Diesel Thanks to Cummins, Department of Energy
It's a large four cylinder diesel by Cummings that has 220 HP and over 300 torque and a combined average of 28 mpg (city/hwy combined).

[snofarmer]

That will be a shot in the arm for Nissan.

But I have to wonder why are the MPG numbers so low?

I can get low 20'smpg with my 6cyl, 6.7 diesel in a full size extended cab, long box 4x4 truck.

[Narfcake]

Originally Posted by snofarmer

That will be a shot in the arm for Nissan.

But I have to wonder why are the MPG numbers so low?

I can get low 20'smpg with my 6cyl, 6.7 diesel in a full size extended cab, long box 4x4 truck.

So how is "a combined average of 28 mpg" LOW, compared to your "low 20's"?

The Titan is a full size truck too, y'know. Not to mention your mileage is for your scenario on the highway as opposed to standardized testing.

I will say that your rant is valid against a Mahindra, however.

[snofarmer]

It's not near the size that a full size 3/4 or 1 ton trucks.
Big fenders don't make a truck
They just don't compare nor can it pull a load and still get good #'s.

It's a "mid" size.

It should be getting mid 30's for mpg

Nice edit.

Some even get better #'s than I do with a 2wd and a 4wd, some get worse #'s in the real world.

A Rant?
I think Not....
this post is getting close but it still falls just short.

Originally Posted by Narfcake

So how is "a combined average of 28 mpg" LOW, compared to your "low 20's"?

The Titan is a full size truck too, y'know.

[johnnytang24]

EPA estimates can't be compared to personal best mpg numbers. A combined 28 mpg means 30+ highway, and I've always gotten 2-3 mpg better than EPA, so real world would be 32-35 highway.

The majority of people don't need 15 ton hauling capability. But I see tons of contractor trucks with the ladder racks, tools, and/or boxes in the back. All pretty light stuff. Why waste money feeding the torque monsters?

I'm sure there's also people like me who wouldn't mind having a vehicle that could carry my motorcycle or occasional large object, but would prefer better mileage most of the time. Most end up with a Ranger or gas F-150. The V6 F-150 gets an EPA estimated 18 combined; ranger 24.

[StealthRabbit]

Now why would a Datsun need (want) to use a Cummins engine? (must be a 'ploy' to get a USA 'credit' for sales / import duty benefit).

I too would like to see better economy. 220HP and 300ft/# is overkill for a midsize pickup truck and one seeking economy. My 160 HP Cummins hauls around 30,000# GCVW in the mtns. (not too fast mind you...). I like the BIG 4cyl idea as it could be an improvement of my SMALL 4cyl diesel pickup, but mine gets 1 mpg per HP (48HP = 48 MPG in my VW pickup, and I have hauled 2,000# a few times (HD suspension) when I didn't want to take the Cummins, or the Mack class 8.)
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[NJGOAT]

Originally Posted by StealthRabbit

Now why would a Datsun need (want) to use a Cummins engine? (must be a 'ploy' to get a USA 'credit' for sales / import duty benefit).

The reason for using a Cummins engine is that it was far easier to source one already built to U.S. diesel emission standards than it was to develop their own.

I like this idea and wish more companies would look at putting diesel engines into the half ton market. It's a perfect fit as it gives you the power you need to use the truck and still return far better mileage than what can be done with a gas engine.

If they pull it off, this could be a big hit for Nissan, which I think is a good thing as it will spawn more folks to follow.