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Old 05-01-2012, 03:11 PM
 
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The state of New York.

What section of the country would u consider it? New England? The northeast?
Probably pushing if u say "the mid-atlantic"

NYC does not have a new england feel to it, but what about the rest of the state?
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Old 05-01-2012, 03:24 PM
 
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No New York is not New England, we are much better...

Ok NE to me is Maine, New Hampshire, Newport. Everything South of that is fake New Engrind.

Good question, what does New England even mean anymore? Anyone with a historical perspective on the original designation of New England?

The designation of New England first appeared in the writings of Captain John Smith, so maybe that's a start...

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Old 05-01-2012, 04:12 PM
 
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New York state would for sure be North East.
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Old 05-01-2012, 04:39 PM
 
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NY is northeast. New England is part of the northeast.
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Old 05-01-2012, 05:34 PM
 
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New England is perhaps the most specifically defined region of the United States. It is the 6 states of Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and Connecticut. New York is the Northeast.
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Old 05-01-2012, 07:58 PM
 
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New England is perhaps the most specifically defined region of the United States. It is the 6 states of Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and Connecticut. New York is the Northeast.
And there we have it folks.
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Old 05-01-2012, 08:50 PM
 
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Default Is New York part of New England?

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The state of New York.

What section of the country would u consider it? New England? The northeast?
Probably pushing if u say "the mid-atlantic"

NYC does not have a new england feel to it, but what about the rest of the state?
No, New York is not a New England state but it is sort of a hybrid area between New England and the Mid-Atlantic and Great Lakes. And we also have a fairly unique Dutch heritage from New Netherland.

LONG ISLAND: To answer your bolded question, I am most familiar with Long Island. Despite all the urban and suburban sprawl there are still parts of Long Island that have a New England and/or Colonial look. We also share some of the seafaring and fishing heritage of New England.

Most of Long Island (especially what is now Suffolk County on Long Island) was orginially settled by colonists from the New England colonies. Mostly from Connecticut but also from Massachusetts.

For instance, the Town of Southampton was founded by settlers from Massachusetts Bay. This is the Southampton Town seal: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nysccdar/009e1dc0.gif

You can still find the New England/Colonial look on parts of the Island, especially on the East End in the Hamptons and the rural North Fork. But you will also find it surviving in the middle of suburbia in some of the older port villages along the shores of the Island. Places like Huntington, Oyster Bay, Cold Spring Harbor, Port Jefferson, Babylon, Amityville, Islip, Sayville, Bellport, Northport, etc.

UPSTATE: Part of Upstate was heavily settled by land hungry New Englanders after the Revolutionary War. Especially the Finger Lakes and Central New York.
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Old 05-01-2012, 09:15 PM
 
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UPSTATE: Part of Upstate was heavily settled by land hungry New Englanders after the Revolutionary War. Especially the Finger Lakes and Central New York.
Yes, starting about 1790, people who wanted to farm something other than "rocks" as a main crop moved west to NY -- along what is now Route 20 and later down to the southern tier of NY. Part of my husband's family farmed in Oneida County; they eventually wound up in Erie County.. When the Holland Land Company surveyed Western NY, more of my husband's family bought land and still has it from the day it was open to purchase.... the entire family came from VT and farmed it from the 1820s ( it took close to 15 years for the father and oldest son to fell trees, build homes, get pastures and crop areas set) until the late 1800s. The land is still in one branch of the family.

There just wasn't enough land to support people in New England.
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Old 05-02-2012, 06:12 AM
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I would have to say no. Where most of the New England states developed along strong religious lines some what like the Massachusetts Bay Colony NY developed as a trading outpost with Dutch influences. As people migrated in from New England getting farther away from the strict religious observances the influence diminished.
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Old 05-02-2012, 08:28 AM
 
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Places in Upstate NY that may give you that New England feel are: Skaneateles, Clinton, Cazenovia, Hamilton, Marcellus, Fayetteville, Manlius, Seneca Falls, Waterloo and perhaps Penn Yan, along with some others. This is in regards to the villages. Some had mills that you would see in some New England communities. Some have their village green in their downtowns or their downtowns have the old architecture with buildings next to each other. Some have the tall steeple church or churches too.
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