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I recently attended a wedding in Rochester, as well as visited a lot of friends and family throughout the Rochester/Syracuse/Finger Lakes area.
There was one simple recurring theme: a lot of people wish they could move back, have looked into employment, and have decided to wait and/or keep looking. I kept hearing, "I'm going to get more experience and start looking again in a few years."
My circle is primarily 25-35 years olds and includes just about every imaginable career: cop, doctor, lawyer, writer, teacher, business guys... coming in from: NYC, S.F., L.A., Chicago, Philly, Phoenix, Florida, Texas....
Thats funny because I know of several people moving back/that have moved back recently to the Rochester area in that age group.
I guess it all depends on your field.
Friends in the IT field have had no problems finding jobs when moving back. People in various business fields found jobs too(no clue what the specific work is, all I know is that they have MBAs).
They have run articles which stated that there are many vacancies in the medical field and many places are in need of doctors in the area.
My lawyer friends didn't have to move away and found positions at firms within a month or two after law school.
The teacher friends that attended school locally found jobs right away. My teacher friends that went to school outside of the state/Rochester region had problems and moved away.
The people I know with journalism degrees can't find decent work (btw, the D&C is a horrible place to work for)
I work in a field related to criminal justice and know that if you want to get into the RPD and are white, it is very tough, even for a transfer. Monroe County sheriffs and some of the federal agencies have had openings recently.
Do some of these people have very specific areas of work? Because I know people that have found jobs in some of the fields you listed.
Jobs seem to be going to the larger cities upstate for the most part. I don't think the employment web sites do a decent job at posting openings.
This is what I see in the Syracuse paper, a need for -
RF Engineers (SRC), Call Center and or Billing (Bank of NY Mellon, Time Warner), Medicare/Benefits and other Insurance Claims/Service Reps (Natl Govt Services, Hanover Ins, HF&C, Pomco), Semi-conductor support engineer (Infocon), Manufacturing and other Operations Mgrs and CFO/ Acctg(Armstrong, Aspen Dental). There is also Paychex in Rochester and Welch Allyn in Skaneateles.
There is a shortage of all sorts of medical personnel including ancillary and office staff, and many very high paying public school administration jobs at $90-150yr. I've heard of police depts that are hiring too.
From what I've heard and read, what the story is, in Rochester atleast, is that there really isn't too much of a shortage of good jobs....and there's certainly not a shortage of people qualified for them...it's that the job hunters aren't made aware enough of the jobs that are available.
That may be true, or it could be the intractable way they write up their ads: master's degree preferred, 3-5 or 8-10 yrs experience (doing precicely the same job or better). Sometimes I think they scare more people away with these ads than they attract.
I recently attended a wedding in Rochester, as well as visited a lot of friends and family throughout the Rochester/Syracuse/Finger Lakes area.
There was one simple recurring theme: a lot of people wish they could move back, have looked into employment, and have decided to wait and/or keep looking. I kept hearing, "I'm going to get more experience and start looking again in a few years."
My circle is primarily 25-35 years olds and includes just about every imaginable career: cop, doctor, lawyer, writer, teacher, business guys... coming in from: NYC, S.F., L.A., Chicago, Philly, Phoenix, Florida, Texas....
We all want to come back, but can't find work.
In my opinion, people in Rochester never really can "make it" as they can in other cities. Don't bite my head off....what I am saying is that in Rochester the majority of educated, working people can have a nice life---aspiring for the house in perinton, fairport, or even pittsford (woo)...but there seems to be a "bubble" in Rochester and upstate where you can't get too successful as you could in the cities you mentioned or more up and coming ones like Raleigh or Charlotte. Maybe the jobs aren't there or the attitude....it just seems like people in this area eventually "top out" at whatever end of the pay scale they can reach......I guess you have to be away from Rochester to really see it all.
And with the great colleges like UR & RIT, where the students typically go into fields that offer them better opportunities as leaders elsewhere, its hard to go back to middle management or under institutional control when elsewhere you can start your own company and actually have a market & climate that supports you.
This is the dealio that I posted on another thread......but, when a whole demographic of people (in this case 25-35 yr olds) leave, an upswing or influx of jobs in the area won't matter because it lost all of the young workforce and thus, will take another 10 years of waiting/decline, etc. to wait for the other entry-level/mid-level folks to build upon. So, that is why employers should be catering to this demographic if they really care about the area......and not offering us peanuts..........I guess I believe that Upstate NY will NEVER be to us (people in our 20's & 30's) what it was to our parents, grandparents, etc.
Thats funny because I know of several people moving back/that have moved back recently to the Rochester area in that age group.
I guess it all depends on your field.
Friends in the IT field have had no problems finding jobs when moving back. People in various business fields found jobs too(no clue what the specific work is, all I know is that they have MBAs).
They have run articles which stated that there are many vacancies in the medical field and many places are in need of doctors in the area.
My lawyer friends didn't have to move away and found positions at firms within a month or two after law school.
The teacher friends that attended school locally found jobs right away. My teacher friends that went to school outside of the state/Rochester region had problems and moved away.
The people I know with journalism degrees can't find decent work (btw, the D&C is a horrible place to work for)
I work in a field related to criminal justice and know that if you want to get into the RPD and are white, it is very tough, even for a transfer. Monroe County sheriffs and some of the federal agencies have had openings recently.
Do some of these people have very specific areas of work? Because I know people that have found jobs in some of the fields you listed.
I work in a field related to criminal justice and know that if you want to get into the RPD and are white, it is very tough, even for a transfer. Monroe County sheriffs and some of the federal agencies have had openings recently.
HMMM I'm not white, have a BS in Criminial Justice from RIT and Paralegal Cert from Brockport and it was very tough for me to find a job too....go figure
I work in a field related to criminal justice and know that if you want to get into the RPD and are white, it is very tough, even for a transfer. Monroe County sheriffs and some of the federal agencies have had openings recently.
HMMM I'm not white, have a BS in Criminial Justice from RIT and Paralegal Cert from Brockport and it was very tough for me to find a job too....go figure
RPD takes laterals and tends to take minority candidates using that process; white cops are encouraged to take the written exam in addition to the usual lateral process. There are a lack of minority applicants for RPD with experience, and that is the way they try to compensate. Are you saying that you are a PO and tried to lateral to RPD but were denied? Degrees and paralegal certs don't count for much as a cop in regards to hire; experience and academy cert is key.
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