Staten Island subway expansion? (New York, Albany: transfer, bankruptcy, construction)
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I thought the people on Staten Island from 20-25 years ago who didnt want a Subway in Expansion into Staten Island have by now for the most part don't live in SI anymore. They moved to either New Jersey, Long Island or moved to the South.
I thought the people on Staten Island from 20-25 years ago who didnt want a Subway in Expansion into Staten Island have by now for the most part don't live in SI anymore. They moved to either New Jersey, Long Island or moved to the South.
Well, even if the people who originally voted against the proposal don't live there any more, it would have to be brought up again, voted on again...and then you could still forget about it because the cost would be prohibitive!
I'm not paying for it! Move to SI, that's your problem.
No, this is not Staten Island residents problem, this is a New York City problem. Staten Islanders tax dollars went towards funding the other four boroughs subway system. Therefore, the other four boroughs should return the favor.
we shouldn't "return" anything that they don't want returned. again, they seem to be content with the status quo. why should we push for something that they don't want??? East Queens on the other hand would not fight against subway expansion.
I don't see WHY Staten Island would want this... they have their own transportation system, and when they want to go to the city they have the ferry, and a good many of the residents have cars. Staten Island is far by simple geography, it's not really anybody's fault that it's so detached.. but the transportation is already there. Let's service areas that have NO service at all.
I think any Subway expansion would be welcome. SI has a lot of gridlock problems so more public transportation options would probably be welcome there, although some NIMBY's might not like that it would be easier for outsiders to come in.
Fred, how much do you think a project like that will cost? And how many years will it take?
I'm guessing somewhere in the billions, and it will take about a decade.
Depends on how they do it. The cheep way would be to expand the R over the Verrazzanno and into the current SI track (which incidentally is the same track type as the R train) Most of the infrastructure is already present for that project. The costs for that would probably maybe 500 Mil. depending on the property values of the houses that would have to be destroyed in both Brooklyn and Staten Island. It would probably take a bit longer than the time it took JFK's airtrain to be built.
The more expensive option would be to extend the one into the SI track, which means building a huge tunnel and tearing up and rebuilding the SI tracks so that they're IRT compatible. This would take billions and would never be accomplished.
The alternative and ultimately cheapest way to do this sort of project however would be to build a light rail from SI into Hoboken/Jersey City, because the tracks for that already exist and are in use by industry, and all you'd really have to do is build another bridge and another set of tracks when they cross into the industrial section of NJ. This however would require the Port Authority to build the line since its an interstate connection, and it doesn't provide a direct connection into the city so residents may be weary of the idea.
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