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Old 03-01-2021, 06:07 PM
 
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just some random person calling bs where i see it...
...who's seen thousands of my posts but just signed up in January.
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Old 03-01-2021, 06:52 PM
 
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...who's seen thousands of my posts but just signed up in January.
yes, that's correct. january all one needs to do is reply to a post on thread and then notice a pattern of snarky replies. one doesn't need to be on a forum for years or even months to recognize that. fyi it also says the number of posts someone has made next to everyone's profile names which is why I said "thousands".
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Old 03-01-2021, 07:04 PM
 
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you never see CD posters using such language when describing someone who happens to be white is the point and if that "distinction" was made, it would be just as disgusting.
Eh, not true. BDB is derided as worse every single day.

This woman couldn't run a bodega let alone the DOE. Let's be real.
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Old 03-01-2021, 07:11 PM
 
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Eh, not true. BDB is derided as worse every single day.
really?.......

calling someone "debozo" or "deworsio" is not the same as stereotyping or calling someone "ghetto" and differentiating them from "bookish and intellectual" blacks, as if blacks other groups can't have individual personalities that aren't tied to their ancestry. you know this though, but are being dense on purpose.

if the insults about the chancellor ross were "the ross person i ever met", "how ross can you go", it'd be another story. you also know this, but are being dense on purpose.
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Old 03-01-2021, 07:31 PM
 
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Eh, not true. BDB is derided as worse every single day.
This woman couldn't run a bodega let alone the DOE. Let's be real.
based on what information are you making this claim?

she was a teenage education activist and a product of nyc schools, then was a teacher, assistant principal, principal, superintendent, and then executive superintendent of bronx schools. she has participated in every tier of the doe and has managed at every level.

our last chancellors ..... carranza and crew were not nyc natives, walcott had to get a waiver to get the position, kathie black had zero teaching/education experience, was from the corporate world and said that parents should have more abortions. https://gothamist.com/news/cathie-bl...-birth-control

only klien and fariña had similar experience to the new chancellor working their way up the DOE.

just say you don't like her for no real reason or point to her past misdeeds for your dislike (which is more valid and would make more sense) and leave it at that.

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Old 03-01-2021, 08:17 PM
 
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based on what information are you making this claim?

she was a teenage education activist and a product of nyc schools, then was a teacher, assistant principal, principal, superintendent, and then executive superintendent of bronx schools. she has participated in every tier of the doe and has managed at every level.

our last chancellors ..... carranza and crew were not a nyc natives, walcott had to get a waiver to get the position, kathie black had zero teaching/education experience, was from the corporate world and said that parents should have more abortions.

only klien and fariña had similar experience.

just say you don't like her for no real reason or point to her past misdeeds for your dislike (which is more valid and would make more sense) and leave it at that.
She's managed at every level OF FAILURE. Working in and managing FAILING enterprises your entire career is not a net positive.
There's this disgusting trait in the public sector that results don't matter, only time served does. People get points just for showing up.

Just because this clown showed up for work at failing institutions year after year (no doubt because she couldn't get a better job anywhere else) doesn't make her "experienced".
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Old 03-01-2021, 09:59 PM
 
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She's managed at every level OF FAILURE. Working in and managing FAILING enterprises your entire career is not a net positive.
There's this disgusting trait in the public sector that results don't matter, only time served does. People get points just for showing up.

Just because this clown showed up for work at failing institutions year after year (no doubt because she couldn't get a better job anywhere else) doesn't make her "experienced".
you haven't made any points in your post. from your point of view any person from the doe collective who ascended to the chancellorship would be a "failure" but i'd bet with confidence that if she weren't "mesiha porter-ross", your opinion wouldn't be so strong. you're just grabbing at straws for the sake of doing so.


From https://www.thecity.nyc/2021/2/28/22...ols-chancellor

"Bronx parents have praised Porter as an ally. The New Settlement Parent Action Committee, or PAC, an advocacy group based in the South Bronx, got word in 2018 that the education department was setting up new teams to focus on equity issues in District 9.

The team’s goals targeted many of the same issues the committee had been focusing on for years: pushing for culturally relevant curriculum that reflects the borough’s diversity, discipline reform, and more.

PAC wanted to join the equity teams, to bring the perspectives and support of parents to the mix. But they ran into roadblocks and excuses about why they couldn’t. Until they reached out to Porter, who had recently been appointed executive superintendent.

“Meisha Ross Porter went to bat for us. She told the equity team we must be at the table — that there’s no equity team without us,” said Ronnette Summers, a parent advocate in District 9 for more than two decades. “She was just really, really receptive. Surprisingly receptive.”

Throughout the pandemic, parents and school officials on the equity teams have worked together to make sure students have internet connections and devices, with parents passing along the names and contact information of hard-to-reach families whenever officials ran into dead ends or struggled to learn the extent of the need.

[B]‘She understands the needs of families in the city.’
Porter is a fixture at meetings and other events like town halls — a constant presence that Summers called “unheard of” in all her tenure as a parent advocate.[/b]


Aide Zainos, another member of PAC, said she is particularly appreciative of Porter’s help ensuring parents have school materials and meetings translated in their native language, whether that’s Spanish or African dialects.

“She understands the needs of families in the city,” Zainos said in Spanish, adding that the equity teams have included “all cultures and languages.”"
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Old 03-02-2021, 05:42 AM
 
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you haven't made any points in your post. from your point of view any person from the doe collective who ascended to the chancellorship would be a "failure" but i'd bet with confidence that if she weren't "mesiha porter-ross", your opinion wouldn't be so strong. you're just grabbing at straws for the sake of doing so.


From https://www.thecity.nyc/2021/2/28/22...ols-chancellor

"Bronx parents have praised Porter as an ally. The New Settlement Parent Action Committee, or PAC, an advocacy group based in the South Bronx, got word in 2018 that the education department was setting up new teams to focus on equity issues in District 9.

The team’s goals targeted many of the same issues the committee had been focusing on for years: pushing for culturally relevant curriculum that reflects the borough’s diversity, discipline reform, and more.

PAC wanted to join the equity teams, to bring the perspectives and support of parents to the mix. But they ran into roadblocks and excuses about why they couldn’t. Until they reached out to Porter, who had recently been appointed executive superintendent.

“Meisha Ross Porter went to bat for us. She told the equity team we must be at the table — that there’s no equity team without us,” said Ronnette Summers, a parent advocate in District 9 for more than two decades. “She was just really, really receptive. Surprisingly receptive.”

Throughout the pandemic, parents and school officials on the equity teams have worked together to make sure students have internet connections and devices, with parents passing along the names and contact information of hard-to-reach families whenever officials ran into dead ends or struggled to learn the extent of the need.

[B]‘She understands the needs of families in the city.’
Porter is a fixture at meetings and other events like town halls — a constant presence that Summers called “unheard of” in all her tenure as a parent advocate.[/b]


Aide Zainos, another member of PAC, said she is particularly appreciative of Porter’s help ensuring parents have school materials and meetings translated in their native language, whether that’s Spanish or African dialects.

“She understands the needs of families in the city,” Zainos said in Spanish, adding that the equity teams have included “all cultures and languages.”"
All you're proving is that she plays politics. One of the biggest problems in failing schools districts is that DOE administrators don't tell the parents that part of the reason that they're kids fail is them.

I do believe that the DOE would be better served by someone who isn't part of the system as Chancellor. You don't need an "educator" as Chancellor. You need a competent operator. The DOE has a workforce and budget larger than almost any entity in the US.

This woman spent her entire career at failing institutions. It's like hiring a marriage counselor who's been married 5 or 6 times. Would you trust someone to save your marriage I'd they can't stay married themselves?
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Old 03-02-2021, 06:27 AM
 
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Wakanda forever?
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Old 03-02-2021, 06:56 AM
 
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All you're proving is that she plays politics. One of the biggest problems in failing schools districts is that DOE administrators don't tell the parents that part of the reason that they're kids fail is them.
not disagreeing with you here. i alluded to this earlier. however this is the case in every city agency. it's not unique to the doe. to move up you have to play, but it still stands that the level of criticism she is receiving is for reasons other than her individual failures, but rather because of the hot bigoted garbage racially motivated irrelevant comments spewing from posters here and people in the city who think like these posters.


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I do believe that the DOE would be better served by someone who isn't part of the system as Chancellor. You don't need an "educator" as Chancellor. You need a competent operator. The DOE has a workforce and budget larger than almost any entity in the US.
agree and disagree. agree on competency, that's a given. disagree on you don't "need an educator". that's ridiculous. it's been tried and failed miserably several times already. partially disagree on you "don't need an insider". perhaps, but you need someone who understands nyc's eduction system and that would be someone on the inside, or who has at least served on the inside at least up to the district level for some time.


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This woman spent her entire career at failing institutions. It's like hiring a marriage counselor who's been married 5 or 6 times. Would you trust someone to save your marriage I'd they can't stay married themselves?
not completely true, but so have many other chancellors and school administrators regardless of color and they didn't receive or don't receive this level of push back or accusations that they ascended to their positions because of "diversity" or some other "initiative".

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It's like hiring a marriage counselor who's been married 5 or 6 times. Would you trust someone to save your marriage I'd they can't stay married themselves?
people die in hospitals every day, but people still go to hospitals.
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