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They're all supposed to be very close to the courthouses in each borough. I've been hearing about these meetings and people are furious. A few folks have had to be escorted out in some cases or asked to quiet down because they were yelling NO MORE JAILS. The de Blasio administration has been trying to steamroll this through with little to no feedback from the communities. It's basically a this is what we wanna do and this is what we're putting here type of attitude. Be happy you're getting this nice new building with underground parking. My real question is who in hell has been voting (overwhelming) for him?
All of the people complaining are likely the ones that gave him their vote and now look. Kew Gardens has been ravaged with a homeless shelter and people have been complaining about how unsafe it has become especially with there being several schools so close to the homeless shelter, and now this. He is placing all of these social issues in nice middle class areas across Queens and nothing in his Park Slope area. Amazing that people here aren't talking about it. Queens is being destroyed literally, no matter how expensive the area is. Just look at Long Island City. They're fighting a homeless shelter there too.
He has been clearly meeting his agenda to help his developer friends in any way that he can. People are also speculating that once Rikers closes, the developers will be SALIVATING to jump on that too.
I don't think he has developer friends. If he could, he'd ramp up NYCHA building all across the city like it was the 1940s. The whole "Inclusionary Housing" thing is simply because even the hard-hard-left is slowly realizing it's curtains for widespread public housing.
This is all going on becuase we as a nation and region have been on the single greatest economic tear in US history. Going on 10 years of unfettered economic growth and really 30+ since the last recession to really ravage NYC was in the early 1990s (it's what did Dinkins in). The Great Recession wasn't nearly as bad here as it was in the heartland. I think some folks don't believe we need middle-class outer borough neighborhoods anymore to stabilize the tax base.
Okay, so can anyone provide a TACTICAL reason on why Rikers Island is being closed?
What else can the space be used for? Commercial / Retail? I think not.
Residential? Hell no.
Mott Haven already has a ****ty reputation. Throwing a jail there is going to completely delete literally all of the progress it's been seeing. Oh, and let's not forget all of the "new" residents that will be filling in all of these "luxury" condos. HA!!! I can see it now. "Rent now at Lacour Towers. We may be located 10 feet from a jail, but don't fret, Bronx's finest police headquarters is just a hop and skip away." Seriously? Who the Hell will willingly move so close to a jail? WHO THE F*CK WANTS TO WILLINGLY LIVE NEXT TO A JAIL?!!?!
I am OUTRAGED. All of this new development and such and they want to erase it all with some stupid jail? Literally anything would be better than a jail. Build more housing projects, build a sematary, Hell... BUILD ANOTHER TRUMP TOWER. IDGAF WHAT JUST DON'T PUT A JAIL IN MY F*CKING BACKYARD.
I'd make a better mayor than this bozo with my "experience" playing city building simulators. Throw a jail down in a residential neighborhood, property values plummet, wealthier people flee, crime skyrockets. Oh and did I forget to mention? WHO THE F*CK WANTS TO WILLINGLY LIVE NEXT TO A JAIL?!!?!
I'd take a mental institution over a jail.
Keep Rikers OPEN. This is NOT going to end well. At all.
To be fair, anytime you go by where the courts are (Grand Concourse, BB-City Hall, DTBK, Jamaica) you're invevitably coming in contact with possible criminals. There's so many cops around DT BK for this reason it isn't even funny. I bet the city is trying to sell this by saying they're going to have State Police/Corrections/Court Police/etc all around there.
I don't support this plan, for a few reasons, but I don't think it's as big of a crime concern as people may think.
Edit to Add: I'd be far far more concerned over a new NYCHA development over a jail. I do feel bad for Mott Haven, since the area seems to be coming around, although most of the development is south of the Bruckner.
This is all politics nonsense. Rikers Island is the ideal situation. Don't want to go there? We have a simple method for that: follow the laws of NYS and you won't end up there.
True, not many people know but DeBlasio and city council de-criminalized spitting on other people. Before spitting counted as 3rd degree assault I think, and now if you have an argument with someone and they spit on you technically its not an assault. I think its downgraded to a 'harassment' and you get a slap on the wrist.
That's correct. The city is also arguing that they will be having "smaller" jails with this system, but as people have asked, what happens if the prison population doesn't decrease? Where do you put these people? While some of them are being held simply for jumping the turnstile and being unable to afford bail, there are others there that are in there due to mental issues, and yet more due to committing serious crimes. This is who they will be releasing back into these communities. This plan will cost 10 BILLION dollars... Absurd. Get people the treatment that they need. We have so many people walking around NYC with mental issues that it isn't even funny. I was on the subway this morning. Got off of the Q at Times Square and saw this lady basically acting as if she was in her house, "tiding up her clothing, etc" on the crowded platform. I've seen far worse though. Just imagine if one of these people snap with there being schools all around. Not a good scene at all.
Let the 19 year old potheads and turnstile jumpers go. Along with frivolous bench warrants for not showing up for possession etc. Most of the stuff these people are in for is just ridiculous and a waste of court bandwidth.
Make prisons back to what they should be - For holding rapists, murderers and hard drug dealers, etc. (NOT the mentally Ill)
Ship all the mentally ill back to Creedmore where they belong. They try to escape they won't get far. It's all highway and forest out there.
This is all politics nonsense. Rikers Island is the ideal situation. Don't want to go there? We have a simple method for that: follow the laws of NYS and you won't end up there.
Well they are saying they don't have the structure and training in Corrections to maintain such a large facility without widespread corruption. Welcome to Medellin Colombia.
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My real question is who in hell has been voting (overwhelming) for him?
