Bill could help New Yorkers bypass city’s strict gun laws (Maine: fingerprinting, crime)
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New York City has the toughest gun laws in the country — but if the proposed conceal carry legislation passes through Congress and is signed by the president, Big Apple residents can get a permit from a handful of states without even leaving home.
States that allow permits by mail include Arizona, Florida, Maine, New Hampshire, Utah and Virginia, according to Handgunlaw.us, a pro-gun Web site that tracks laws in all 50 states.
In all six, anyone living anywhere in the US can apply for a permit by mail, with some even offering them to legal residents from other countries.
New Yorkers can also get permits from 20 other states that don’t require residency, although they mandate the applicants appear in person to pick them up.
The costs vary, but on average appear to run about $100.
Each of the states that allow permits by mail has differing standards — some of them tougher than others.
In Arizona, for example, even “permanent resident aliens” can qualify if they prove their residency status is legit.
Convicted felons or those convicted of any domestic violence crime are not eligible.
Neither are those who have been committed to a mental institution.
In Florida and some of the other states, the applicant has to prove that he or she has received firearms training.
Most states also require fingerprinting and valid identification.
Many of the states already have reciprocity agreements with other places. Arizona permit holders, for example, can pack heat legally in 31 other states.
That answer is irrelevant to the issue at hand as the Congressional legislation, if passed, would make such reciprocity agreements moot.
OK, I didn't read the article well. I could see NY and similar states challenging this at the Supreme Court. Personally, I would be happy if it passed.
OK, I didn't read the article well. I could see NY and similar states challenging this at the Supreme Court. Personally, I would be happy if it passed.
Yeah, it would definitely be challenged, but I really can't see a legitimate legal, constitutional argument against such a law.
Up till now, there's been very little effort by Congress to enforce the Second Amendment on the state and local governments. With Trump in the WH and the Republicans running Congress, this may change. Given the presence of the Second Amendment, especially with the somewhat recent SCOTUS decisions supporting it as confirring an individual right that is binding on all levels of government, Congress may be viewed as having the authority to do this.
What they're talking about is a bit indirect (allowing residents of one state to get a permit from other states.) I'd rather see the congress just whack out all gun laws on the state an local level.
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Originally Posted by mathjak107
new yorkers can't even buy ammo out of state mail order .dollars to donuts this bill as is , will never happen
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