Brooklyn mom pushed stroller into elevator that wasn’t there. Baby plunged 8 floors to her death. (Valhalla: how much, live)
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You're right, the other day I forgot to serve my kids a side of vegetables with their pasta. I guess me and drop-my-kid-in-the-elevator-shaft lady are even now
You're worse because you can't sue anyone for that.
tragic stuff happens ALL the time. I'm sorry, but I don't want to cast hate on this woman for this tragic accident. Yes, she obviously could have stopped and looked if the elevator was actually there. Now every time I take an elevator I am going to stop and look if it's there. This was a tragic accident where someone lost their child. I don't think it's the same as people leaving their kids in hot cars or stuff like that, that's criminal negligence. This is not criminal negligence, it was a tragic accident.
It can't be criminal negligence for the sheer incompetence of the building's management - they are the ones who caused this to happen and they are legally responsible. That doesn't absolve, however, the parent's responsibility to guard their child against dangers such as cars, elevators, escalators, etc... Let's not forget who the victim is here - the child.
I totally agree with you, but to think that people are always on guard 100% of the time in a situation such as walking into an elevator in your building is kinda off key. This is a freak accident and I do not blame the mother at all. I can't even imagine what she is going through right now.
Yeah that's something she shouldn't be expected to see on her own: an empty elevator shaft. Definitely someone else's fault.
Completely agree. It takes what a second to look before you step onto an elevator. Nothing is that important that can't wait, but people can't wait for anything anymore. I see people running to get onto the elevator all of the time without looking as if there will never be another one.
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Originally Posted by Aquarius37
^ what?
tragic stuff happens ALL the time. I'm sorry, but I don't want to cast hate on this woman for this tragic accident. Yes, she obviously could have stopped and looked if the elevator was actually there. Now every time I take an elevator I am going to stop and look if it's there. This was a tragic accident where someone lost their child. I don't think it's the same as people leaving their kids in hot cars or stuff like that, that's criminal negligence. This is not criminal negligence, it was a tragic accident.
So you're saying that a tragic accident has to happen before you use common sense?
Yes, but empathy supercedes common sense in a tragedy like this.
Since it isn't clear why the mother did what she did, I'll withhold my empathy for now. The endless amount of people I see walking around NYC oblivious to their surroundings because they can't do anything without their cell phones (heaven forbid they actually looked where they were walking ) leads me to believe that mother was likely guilty of the same thing, otherwise I can't quite fathom how one doesn't see that the elevator isn't there. I use elevators numerous times a day (office building and residence) and I always take a second to look before I step in. Texting and everything else can wait, as my safety comes first. Some people walk and text on purpose, which is even worse. It's a tragedy, yes, but one that likely could've been avoided. Had the elevator jumped as she was stepping in (which happened years ago and crushed a lady), that I would've understood. I'll await more details on this one.
I can't quite fathom how one doesn't see that the elevator isn't there. I use elevators numerous times a day (office building and residence) and I always take a second to look before I step in.
I totally agree with you, but to think that people are always on guard 100% of the time in a situation such as walking into an elevator in your building is kinda off key.
Why? Am I the only person who doesn't blindly run onto an elevator? I look in before I get on and I look out before I get off of it. I also like to give people the chance to vacate the elevator if they need to do so.
It's kind of like being a pedestrian---I look before I cross the street, whether it's my light or not. And the same goes for driving---I might have a green light, but I am still responsible for braking when the moron is crossing against the light with his eyes glued to the phone.
Honestly, I don't recall any time I've walked into an elevator thinking it wouldn't be there. Apparently, I will now. Give this woman a break, she lost her kid.
Why? Am I the only person who doesn't blindly run onto an elevator? I look in before I get on and I look out before I get off of it. I also like to give people the chance to vacate the elevator if they need to do so.
It's kind of like being a pedestrian---I look before I cross the street, whether it's my light or not. And the same goes for driving---I might have a green light, but I am still responsible for braking when the moron is crossing against the light with his eyes glued to the phone.
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