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Believe Bellerose has its own LIRR station. Glen Oaks would use the Floral Park station in Nassau county. Both these neighborhoods are half Queens and half Nassau. All the areas I mentioned have their own LIRR stations, so not sure what you mean. You move to these areas for affordability. Schools...NYC schools for the most part suck other than northeast Queens. Still better than what you'd find in Brooklyn or the Bronx. Glen Oaks might actually be zoned for the Herricks district in Nassau county. Jamaica has Rufus King and Baisley Pond parks. The shopping strip is Jamaica ave. There are actually some blocks in Queens Village with some pretty cool spanish style houses that you typically would only see in certain parts of Florida.
By reading this post it's quite evident your never in that area. Bellerose does not have a LIRR station. They also do not have a subway station. Is there a Lirr train station in Bellerose Village? Yes, That's a village within Nassau County. Private streets with ZERO parking. You cannot get a spot within the train station. Also it's not close to Bellerose Queens unless you live on Jericho Turnpike/Jamaica Ave on top of a store.
GLen Oaks, Is a large coop community within NYC. The complex is on Union Turnpike with some of it going further North then Union. How would they use a Nassau County school in New Hyde Park? GLen Oaks is a sprawling 2-3 story townhouses nowhere near the Floral Park train station in Nassau County. See above for the parking headaches.
Shopping? You couldn't pay me to shop at VIP jeans or any of those low end shops there.
Parks? Baisly Pond Park? Right near the 40's houses?
Where in Queens Village are these spanish style houses? What is the actual street?
Housing stock. There are many beautiful tudor, colonial and brownstones located in Jamaica.
There are some rough areas but overall there are many beautiful areas.
Addesleigh park which is 7 mins drive to Jamaica station (Jamaica is 15 mins from Penn station on LIRR) has many beautiful homes. Think expansive tudors and colonials similar to those found in Forrest Hills.
Laurelton and other areas of St Albans also has beautiful houses.
Addlesleigh Park is part of Jamaica or St Albans? IMO you're adding parts of other areas into Jamaica.
Bed Stuy, NO question a real dump. Two distinct differences between Jamaica and Bed Stuy. FIrstly, real beautiful housing stock in Bed Stuy. People are willing to pay big bucks for original wood work and crown moldings. Bed Stuy was not built for working class folks. Secondly, It's in Brooklyn. It's situated in a much better locale then Jamaica. You have the spillover effect from Williamsburg in the North. Clinton Hill/Ft Greene to the west. Depending where you are in Bed Stuy, Prospect park is not to far. That's a beautiful park second to Central Park.
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By reading this post it's quite evident your never in that area. Bellerose does not have a LIRR station. They also do not have a subway station. Is there a Lirr train station in Bellerose Village? Yes, That's a village within Nassau County. Private streets with ZERO parking. You cannot get a spot within the train station. Also it's not close to Bellerose Queens unless you live on Jericho Turnpike/Jamaica Ave on top of a store.
GLen Oaks, Is a large coop community within NYC. The complex is on Union Turnpike with some of it going further North then Union. How would they use a Nassau County school in New Hyde Park? GLen Oaks is a sprawling 2-3 story townhouses nowhere near the Floral Park train station in Nassau County. See above for the parking headaches.
Shopping? You couldn't pay me to shop at VIP jeans or any of those low end shops there.
Parks? Baisly Pond Park? Right near the 40's houses?
Where in Queens Village are these spanish style houses? What is the actual street?
Many people on the Queens side can walk to the Bellerose station on the other side of the county border. You are not denied access to the train just because you live on the other side of the county border. And most of Glen Oaks has a Nassau county zip code. So not considered Flushing or Jamaica. Not sure why any of this matters as it pertains to this thread anyway.
Point is that Jamaica has the bones. It has the capabilities to supply demand. The ave has the potential to be a retail strip as it was in the past. Who cares about having a large gigantic waste of a space park anyway. If you need a large park take a short trip to either Forest Park or Cunningham Park. Baisley Pond Park isn't all that bad either. I used to play ball there all the time and I'm not even from the area. After Midtown, The Financial District, Downtown Brooklyn and Downtown Flushing, Jamaica Center is the next largest CBD. Much of this is because it is considered the "Gateway to the World" due to its close proximity to JFK.
The Spanish stucco houses are over by Martin Van Buren. Besides that you'll find some nice looking capes all around Queens Village.
Addlesleigh Park is part of Jamaica or St Albans? IMO you're adding parts of other areas into Jamaica.
Bed Stuy, NO question a real dump. Two distinct differences between Jamaica and Bed Stuy. FIrstly, real beautiful housing stock in Bed Stuy. People are willing to pay big bucks for original wood work and crown moldings. Bed Stuy was not built for working class folks. Secondly, It's in Brooklyn. It's situated in a much better locale then Jamaica. You have the spillover effect from Williamsburg in the North. Clinton Hill/Ft Greene to the west. Depending where you are in Bed Stuy, Prospect park is not to far. That's a beautiful park second to Central Park.
Brooklyn only recently became Brooklyn. If you told someone in the early 1990s that homes in Bedstuy would sell for millions, they would fall out of their chair laughing. And yet here we are in 2015.
Queens is now an expensive destination in it's own right, with it's own massive investments in real estate and other sectors.
Greater Jamaica (area code 114) has the airport, casino, etc. It has a lot of potential to develop tourism related industries and as it develops economically that will make Jamaica proper (a transportation hub) that much more valuable.
Many people on the Queens side can walk to the Bellerose station on the other side of the county border. You are not denied access to the train just because you live on the other side of the county border. And most of Glen Oaks has a Nassau county zip code. So not considered Flushing or Jamaica. Not sure why any of this matters as it pertains to this thread anyway.
Point is that Jamaica has the bones. It has the capabilities to supply demand. The ave has the potential to be a retail strip as it was in the past. Who cares about having a large gigantic waste of a space park anyway. If you need a large park take a short trip to either Forest Park or Cunningham Park. Baisley Pond Park isn't all that bad either. I used to play ball there all the time and I'm not even from the area. After Midtown, The Financial District, Downtown Brooklyn and Downtown Flushing, Jamaica Center is the next largest CBD. Much of this is because it is considered the "Gateway to the World" due to its close proximity to JFK.
The Spanish stucco houses are over by Martin Van Buren. Besides that you'll find some nice looking capes all around Queens Village.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Gl...a3e7e6622be068
No one is saying your denied train access. It's the getting there that could be the impediment. Glen oaks is not a part of Nassau County. It's an NYC area 100%.
Addlesleigh Park is part of Jamaica or St Albans? IMO you're adding parts of other areas into Jamaica.
Bed Stuy, NO question a real dump. Two distinct differences between Jamaica and Bed Stuy. FIrstly, real beautiful housing stock in Bed Stuy. People are willing to pay big bucks for original wood work and crown moldings. Bed Stuy was not built for working class folks. Secondly, It's in Brooklyn. It's situated in a much better locale then Jamaica. You have the spillover effect from Williamsburg in the North. Clinton Hill/Ft Greene to the west. Depending where you are in Bed Stuy, Prospect park is not to far. That's a beautiful park second to Central Park.
I don't think they are referring solely to Jamaica. They are referring to Jamaica and surrounding areas. The surrounding areas has the many brownstones, tudors etc. Many of these homes still has the original details. I know, purchased two in the past 3 years. Heck, I found newspapers from 1940 In the attic, herringbone wood floor, wood windows(with no argon gas! Lol) , exposed beams. I have also visited homes in the area with the same details.
People who are lookingfor affordable alternatives are also less likely to be stuck on such detail specification. If a house doesn't have original crown moulding but costs $100k to $200k less, that wouldn't be a deal breaker for many. Many people have been priced out of the mentioned brooklyn areas. They are now forced to look beyond the Brooklyn and other established more expensive area in Queens. Many , would rather stay in the confines of the city for various reasons.
And if every area/park close to a project was deemed a no go there would be huge problems in the city.
I have been to or passed baisely pond park on many occassions. I have never once felt unsafe or seen anything nefarious.
Brooklyn only recently became Brooklyn. If you told someone in the early 1990s that homes in Bedstuy would sell for millions, they would fall out of their chair laughing. And yet here we are in 2015.
Queens is now an expensive destination in it's own right, with it's own massive investments in real estate and other sectors.
Greater Jamaica (area code 114) has the airport, casino, etc. It has a lot of potential to develop tourism related industries and as it develops economically that will make Jamaica proper (a transportation hub) that much more valuable.
The city is working through York College to help start-up businesses find locations in Jamaica.
Listen Aqueduct is in Ozone Park/South ozone. That's not Jamaica. The same way people in Kingsbridge say they are in Riverdale. Two totally different neighborhoods. "Lower Spanish Harlem" is not a part of the UES. We can go in circles for hours. I personally do not see the appeal of Jamaica. I gave my reasons and I've been there a million times. I'm not just googling info and throwing it into the air to see what sticks. I gave my reason why Bed Stuy is doing well. The same reason Vinegar Hill is doing well now. The same reason Harlem has seen a renaissance. The same reason a developer decided that we should tap into Ocean front property and build Arvene By The Sea. The pct covering Jamaica 103Pct has been one of the busiest pct's in NYC. http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloa...-us-103pct.pdf
That one individual who blogs does not speak for an entire area. We are not disputing that there aren't some problem areas. But there are more nice areas than problem areas. The residents unfortunately don't feel the need to or blog about the many good reasons that they live here for many decades even when they can afford to move to other neighborhoods.
I don't think they are referring solely to Jamaica. They are referring to Jamaica and surrounding areas. The surrounding areas has the many brownstones, tudors etc. Many of these homes still has the original details. I know, purchased two in the past 3 years. Heck, I found newspapers from 1940 In the attic, herringbone wood floor, wood windows(with no argon gas! Lol) , exposed beams. I have also visited homes in the area with the same details.
People who are lookingfor affordable alternatives are also less likely to be stuck on such detail specification. If a house doesn't have original crown moulding but costs $100k to $200k less, that wouldn't be a deal breaker for many. Many people have been priced out of the mentioned brooklyn areas. They are now forced to look beyond the Brooklyn and other established more expensive area in Queens. Many , would rather stay in the confines of the city for various reasons.
And if every area/park close to a project was deemed a no go there would be huge problems in the city.
I have been to or passed baisely pond park on many occassions. I have never once felt unsafe or seen anything nefarious.
Because the author is probably not from NYC. It's the same guy calling Washington Heights aka Hudson Heights. Hells Kitchen being called Clinton Hill. I'm speaking about Jamaica proper.
Maybe I should post photos. This will dispel the rumors that Jamaica and it's surroundings inhabitants are destitute poor people who can not afford better.
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