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Old 03-15-2013, 11:57 AM
 
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Around Sunset Park, Tutoring is Key to Top High Schools

"His mother said it cost $5000 a year for all three boys to go to weekend and summer classes. It was no small expense. She and her husband work in the garment industry and said they make just $26,000 a year, combined. Speaking in her native Taishan dialect, while her son translated, she described how they came up with the money."

“Basically, she just said she worked every day,” said Denis. “I’m pretty sure it was every day… and just saved up the money to bring us to tutoring.”
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Old 03-15-2013, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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What's the demographics of Elmhurst?

Of the top 10 zip codes, Fresh Meadows, Bensonhurst (and maybe LES) have significant Asian populations.



The article is very interesting.

Some might say that Asian kids just prepare for test taking with mainly memorization techniques, but regardless of their means, it shows that it pays off to keep on practicing and drilling.

What's even more admirable is that the family does it on such a low income.
There's certainly a high degree of appreciation for education amongst Asian families.
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Old 03-15-2013, 12:38 PM
 
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In my neighborhood, Bensonhurst, this kind of stories are everywhere. I've seen a few non Asian kids go to prep classes along with Chinese kids on Saturday. Last year, Stuyvesant High School has 72% Asians. It is 73% now. I am not surprised if it reaches 80% in a few more years.
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Old 03-15-2013, 01:03 PM
 
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What's the demographics of Elmhurst?
From Wikipedia,

Population (2010)
• Total 85,600
Ethnicity
• Hispanic or Latino 43.1%
• Asian 38.9%
• White 13.6%
• Two or more races 5.8%
• African American 2.0%
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Old 03-15-2013, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Manhattan
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In my neighborhood, Bensonhurst, this kind of stories are everywhere. I've seen a few non Asian kids go to prep classes along with Chinese kids on Saturday. Last year, Stuyvesant High School has 72% Asians. It is 73% now. I am not surprised if it reaches 80% in a few more years.
Wow. When I went to Stuy, it was 50% Asian.
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Old 03-15-2013, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Pelham Parkway,The Bronx
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. Last year, Stuyvesant High School has 72% Asians. It is 73% now. I am not surprised if it reaches 80% in a few more years.
People are going to really flip out when it gets over 90% which will happen in another 10 years or so.
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Old 03-15-2013, 07:25 PM
 
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better to send them to test prep school than letting them hang on the streets to scare tourists.
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Old 03-15-2013, 07:32 PM
 
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......it shows that it pays off to keep on practicing and drilling.

What's even more admirable is that the family does it on such a low income.
There's certainly a high degree of appreciation for education amongst Asian families.
No they are 11 year old kids studying really hard to learn that a^2 + b^2 = c^2 and that Hitler was Austrian not German. Seriously it's high school. The stuff you learn in high school doesn't even cover a fraction what most colleges teach you nor are any of those skills transferable. In high school your brain is still underdeveloped and you are an immature brat. Moreover the key to getting into college is not going to a good high school. Unlike employers, college institutions DO NOT discriminate based on location so it doesn't matter which high school you go to. The criteria for a top college:

40% GPA
40% SAT
20% essay, activities, visit university

or

100% donation

Based on those reasonable numbers, that means it's actually strategic to go to a crap school where obtaining a 4.0 GPA is easier. That way, the only thing her kids have to worry about is the SAT. If majority of parents truly believe their kids actually retain what they learn in HS lolololol She think HS expensive, wait till her THREE kids go to college.

If we compare European education system to ours, America's was designed to allow kids to have fun and slack off. In America a student can literally fail every course in middle school go to a mediocre/top public high school and get into Stanford. Why? Because the only years that matter are 9th, 10th, & 11th grade. America still wonders why we can't catch up to our British cousins.
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:09 PM
 
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You left out a key factor: the classes that a student takes. A mediocre high school isn't going to have the selection of challenging courses and other opportunities that a good high school offers.
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No they are 11 year old kids studying really hard to learn that a^2 + b^2 = c^2 and that Hitler was Austrian not German. Seriously it's high school. The stuff you learn in high school doesn't even cover a fraction what most colleges teach you nor are any of those skills transferable. In high school your brain is still underdeveloped and you are an immature brat. Moreover the key to getting into college is not going to a good high school. Unlike employers, college institutions DO NOT discriminate based on location so it doesn't matter which high school you go to. The criteria for a top college:

40% GPA
40% SAT
20% essay, activities, visit university

or

100% donation

Based on those reasonable numbers, that means it's actually strategic to go to a crap school where obtaining a 4.0 GPA is easier. That way, the only thing her kids have to worry about is the SAT. If majority of parents truly believe their kids actually retain what they learn in HS lolololol She think HS expensive, wait till her THREE kids go to college.

If we compare European education system to ours, America's was designed to allow kids to have fun and slack off. In America a student can literally fail every course in middle school go to a mediocre/top public high school and get into Stanford. Why? Because the only years that matter are 9th, 10th, & 11th grade. America still wonders why we can't catch up to our British cousins.
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:44 PM
 
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It is a cheap way to keep their kids occupied/taken care of by sending them to these inexpensive after school classes.while those labor-working parents have to go to work 7 days a week. Children from middle class or upper Asian families participate in a large variety of extracurriculum activities similar to children from most middle class American families. The children of the family background like the one mentioned in the story above cannot afford to do anything else like organized sports, arts, social, trips but to go to those inexpensive classrooms to study and be supervised when their parents are at work.
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