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Old 08-26-2009, 07:47 AM
 
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Luckyshoes:

I don't see orange, but I do see yellow. There are a few. The cluster of Paterson is all yellow. So is the one zip code of Passaic. There is one other yellow zip code, and that is the Township of Washington (07676 zip code), in Bergen County.
first of all, nice job by mike to post these maps.

secondly, i think luckyshoes was referring to the property crime map in your first post, not the violent crime one.

to answer her question:
if i'm not mistaken, the two orange-colored towns in the bergen county section of the property crime map are paramus and washington township.

it isn't surprising that paramus would have a higher-than-average property crime rate due to all of the car thefts and shoplifting at the malls.

but washington township? that makes no sense to me whatsoever, since it's a sleepy, upper middle class community with a marginal commercial presence. perhaps there was a rash of break-ins in township homes during the particular year that this crime data was collected? sometimes a lone serial burglar will target a bunch of homes in a given town and year, which ends up inflating that town's crime stats for that particular year well beyond the norm. otherwise, i can't think of anything that would account for washington township's relatively high rate of crime in mike's map.

another thing that's interesting is that washington township has a higher-than-expected rate of personal crime risk according to the data that mike collected. again, i don't see how that's possible, but maybe my theory about a rash of break-ins could be tied to that somehow?

in any event, i'll bet that if we were to look at a 10-, 20-, or 30-year period for washington township, its crime rates would be similar to its neighboring towns (other than paramus, which is always going to have an inflated property crime rate due to its large retail presence).
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Old 08-26-2009, 08:46 AM
 
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Can you please zoom Bergen County?
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Old 08-26-2009, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Middlesex County
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Excellent map! Do you think you can zoom in on Middlesex county? I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks!
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Old 08-26-2009, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Historic Downtown Jersey City
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Thanks for this Mike. How accurate would you say this is? For example, this map dictates that the Greenville section of Jersey City is safer (in both property and personal crime) than the Downtown/Waterfront section of JC. Greenville is considered one of the most unsafe zipcodes in NJ. What gives?
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Old 08-26-2009, 09:27 AM
 
Location: 32°19'03.7"N 106°43'55.9"W
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Thanks for this Mike. How accurate would you say this is? For example, this map dictates that the Greenville section of Jersey City is safer (in both property and personal crime) than the Downtown/Waterfront section of JC. Greenville is considered one of the most unsafe zipcodes in NJ. What gives?
I think in the case of JC, the data is derived from local law enforcement. When it comes to rural areas, I am not sure if it's under the perview of NJSP or the FBI. These figures, by the way, are derived from 2007.
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Old 08-26-2009, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Historic Downtown Jersey City
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I think in the case of JC, the data is derived from local law enforcement. When it comes to rural areas, I am not sure if it's under the perview of NJSP or the FBI. These figures, by the way, are derived from 2007.
But still, it seems way, way off. Greenville is like Compton (crime-wise). Downtown JC is like Hoboken (crime-wise). Why would the Greenville numbers be significantly lower? Total head-scratcher!
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Old 08-26-2009, 09:41 AM
 
Location: 32°19'03.7"N 106°43'55.9"W
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Middlesex and Bergen, zoomed in:

Bergen violent crime



Bergen property crime



Middlesex violent crime



Middlesex property crime

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Old 08-26-2009, 09:47 AM
 
Location: 32°19'03.7"N 106°43'55.9"W
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But still, it seems way, way off. Greenville is like Compton (crime-wise). Downtown JC is like Hoboken (crime-wise). Why would the Greenville numbers be significantly lower? Total head-scratcher!
Look at this link Tommy, comparing 07302 to 07305.
Moving.com: Compare Two Cities

Like yourself, I always associated 07305 as the worst of the JC zips, particularly the area around Ocean Ave.
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Old 08-26-2009, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Historic Downtown Jersey City
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Look at this link Tommy, comparing 07302 to 07305.
Moving.com: Compare Two Cities

Like yourself, I always associated 07305 as the worst of the JC zips, particularly the area around Ocean Ave.
It just makes no sense whatsoever. Greenville is a literal war zone. Either 2007 was a fluke year, or these numbers are way, way off.
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Old 08-26-2009, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Hey Mike - nice jobs w/ the maps!

I was wondering if you could zoom in on the Camden/Burlington County areas around Philly.
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