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Old 09-18-2020, 11:21 AM
 
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It's not just people moving out. It's companies / people being disincentivized from moving in.
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Old 09-18-2020, 12:59 PM
 
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These illegal immigrants aren't going to pay for themselves!

Now are ghettos like Newark, Paterson, and Camden...they need your hard-earned cash because they need new rims!
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Old 09-18-2020, 01:03 PM
 
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It's not just people moving out. It's companies / people being disincentivized from moving in.
Yes! And they have the tools to do so. NJ Treasury Dept can pull data the from the Dept of Corporation (maybe a different name in NJ) and find out how many "Inactive" entities with Domestic and Foreign Qualification have been closed during "x" period of time. Florida and Texas do this a lot. It gives them visibility to important data and causes of closure, and then adjust policies accordingly.
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Old 09-18-2020, 02:36 PM
 
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Yes! And they have the tools to do so. NJ Treasury Dept can pull data the from the Dept of Corporation (maybe a different name in NJ) and find out how many "Inactive" entities with Domestic and Foreign Qualification have been closed during "x" period of time. Florida and Texas do this a lot. It gives them visibility to important data and causes of closure, and then adjust policies accordingly.

Tax increases is their policy IMO.
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Old 09-18-2020, 06:49 PM
 
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BS. we have all gone over this before as many people leave as come into NJ if not more. Trying to scare people off is a trump tactic. Murphey told everyone what he was going to do and he got elected. No surprise's.
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Old 09-18-2020, 07:03 PM
 
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BS. we have all gone over this before as many people leave as come into NJ if not more. Trying to scare people off is a trump tactic. Murphey told everyone what he was going to do and he got elected. No surprise's.

Trump tactic?? I know you hate him and probably need Trumpenol, I'll show you the box if requested.

Facts does not equal wanting to scare and yes Murphy likes raising taxes - he ran on it and the sucker voters IMO voted for him.

It's up to "the person" if they want to be scared.
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Old 09-19-2020, 03:25 PM
 
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It's not just people moving out. It's companies / people being disincentivized from moving in.
I wonder if it will get worse now that a lot of people will WFH indefinitely. If there is no need for workers to come in, why headquarter a company in NY or NJ instead of TX or TN?
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Old 09-20-2020, 06:54 AM
 
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I wonder if it will get worse now that a lot of people will WFH indefinitely. If there is no need for workers to come in, why headquarter a company in NY or NJ instead of TX or TN?

It depends if WFH will be a permanent new normal going forward.
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Old 09-20-2020, 07:17 AM
 
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It depends if WFH will be a permanent new normal going forward.
At the moment, lots of Tech and other Startups have moved officially to a WFH policy. Even if the company works from an Shared Office Space format, they will be saving on rent, Commercial Rent Tax (if the annualized rent expense is over $250K per year), Crime-General Liability (Xcess Umbrella) and other applicable premiums depending on the industry, free allowances like train rides (part of their T&E line item). This is a no brainer for most of them. If you want to make a young company cash flow positive.....this is going to help a lot. And depending on the company's headcount, they may reduce their SG&A on the payroll taxes portion of the employer.....but this one depends greatly on which states the employees move to.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkel.../#54e2b50f562f
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Old 09-20-2020, 07:24 AM
 
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At the moment, lots of Tech and other Startups have moved officially to a WFH policy. Even if the company works from an Shared Office Space format, they will be saving on rent, Commercial Rent Tax (if the annualized rent expense is over $250K per year), Crime-General Liability (Xcess Umbrella) and other applicable premiums depending on the industry, free allowances like train rides (part of their T&E line item). This is a no brainer for most of them. If you want to make a young company cash flow positive.....this is going to help a lot. And depending on the company's headcount, they may reduce their SG&A on the payroll taxes portion of the employer.....but this one depends greatly on which states the employees move to.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkel.../#54e2b50f562f

And those dem cities (by playing politics), cut their nose spite their face to the loss of future tax revenues IMO.
To what extent is to be determined.
I can see this potentially catching on.
Lets see how much vacant office space stays that way for "eeons".
Less salary = less tax receipts, also other businesses dependent on foot traffic will most likely suffer too IMO.
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