It's official: Neanderthal genes in Homo Sapiens Sapiens genome (evolution, look)

[Neuling]

I just heard on the news that scientists have discovered that between 1 and 4% of the genome of non-African HSS is from Neanderthals
Quite a surprise, for decades most people have tried to prove we never had anything to do with them, and now it's a fact, at least Caucasians and East Asians have Neanderthal genes in them They assume that Neanderthals had already mixed with HSS before Caucasians and East Asians as such had evolved separately.

[uggabugga]

you beat me to it

Study Says Neanderthals May Have Mated With Humans - NYTimes.com

[Grandpa Pipes]

Originally Posted by Neuling

I just heard on the news that scientists have discovered that between 1 and 4% of the genome of non-African HSS is from Neanderthals
Quite a surprise, for decades most people have tried to prove we never had anything to do with them, and now it's a fact, at least Caucasians and East Asians have Neanderthal genes in them They assume that Neanderthals had already mixed with HSS before Caucasians and East Asians as such had evolved separately.

Link please to support this claim. (Phooie)

[irman]

Does not surprise me at all.....
I have seen some people who even today look like Neanderthals ....

[harry chickpea]

Told ya so. I got shot down a while back in one of the forums for suggesting that.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/histo...nd-hair-3.html

Neener neener

[Neuling]

Yes, to many people this is a critical issue, especially to very religious ones. They want HSS to be special and independent from evolution and all that. No admixture from those oh so primitive Neanderthal apes

Two things strike me about all this:
1. I always thought that crossing two species does not really yield fertile offspring. I guess that is what they used to tell us in biology classes. But Neanderthals and HSS were different species, not just races.
2. There are Neanderthal genes in HSS, but no HSS genes in Neanderthals. Maybe this means that Neanderthals were not killed off etc. as commonly assumed, but simply absorbed by HSS. Like with the ancient Sumerians. Some people say the Sumerians died out, but basically they live on in the gene pool of Iraqis and Iranians.

Since that mixing took place in the Middle East, I wonder if those old tales of forbidden mixing between humans and another race (which I guess is even mentioned in the Bible, but also in original Sumerian writings) are based on that

[uggabugga]

Originally Posted by Neuling

2. There are Neanderthal genes in HSS, but no HSS genes in Neanderthals.

i don't think they've proven that yet.

[Gplex]

So I guess Africans could truthfully call me a neanderthal lol...

[Brian.Pearson]

Originally Posted by harry chickpea

Told ya so. I got shot down a while back in one of the forums for suggesting that.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/histo...nd-hair-3.html

Neener neener

On the blue eyes comment, I read that they started about six thousand years ago.

[Brian.Pearson]

Originally Posted by Tightwad

Link please to support this claim. (Phooie)

"the initial analysis suggests that up to 2 percent of the DNA in the genome of present-day humans outside of Africa originated in Neanderthals or in Neanderthals' ancestors."

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The evidence for more recent gene flow between Neanderthals and humans came from an analysis showing that Neanderthals are more closely related to some present-day humans than to others. The researchers looked at places where the DNA sequence is known to vary among individuals by a single "letter." Comparing different individuals with Neanderthals, they asked how frequently the Neanderthal sequence matches that of different humans.