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Old 11-25-2019, 08:26 AM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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It's playing at the Dundee Theater (now owned and run by Filmstreams).
Ahhh....I remember it well. Don't recall if I ever saw anything there, but I drove past it countless times. Indian Hills was my theater of choice or the Westroads 6 west? for the lesser films. It broke my heart to hear that the Indian Hills had been demolished.
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Old 11-25-2019, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Connecticut
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I don't begin to understand the distribution of this movie. Supposedly it was released November 1st (limited) and yet there are no audience reviews on Rotten Tomatoes? To my knowledge, it hasn't been in any of the mainstream theaters nearby me.

What is the Netflix connection and how is it that they seem to be controlling this? I'm sure not gonna start jumping through extra hoops (like subscribing to Netflix) to see a new movie. Baffled here....and frustrated because this one is one of the rare releases I'd go to see.

It's because Scorese could barely get enough funding for this movie as it was. He also spent a pretty penny on using de-aging CGI/technology for De Niro, Pacino, and Pesci. When Scorsese realized he didn't have much support from theaters to distribute the film, he reached out to Netflix and they agreed to air it, shortly after it got released in theaters. Yet instead of accepting the fact that he should've made this film years ago when these guys were younger, he decided to go on a rant about Marvel and how superhero movies aren't cinema. Guess he had to promote this movie somehow.
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Old 11-25-2019, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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FWIW the reviews of this movie so far have been positive. Some even say it might be his best work.
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Old 11-25-2019, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Northern California
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We are going to see it tomorrow, & I am really looking forward to it.
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Old 11-25-2019, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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I don't begin to understand the distribution of this movie. Supposedly it was released November 1st (limited) and yet there are no audience reviews on Rotten Tomatoes? To my knowledge, it hasn't been in any of the mainstream theaters nearby me.

What is the Netflix connection and how is it that they seem to be controlling this? I'm sure not gonna start jumping through extra hoops (like subscribing to Netflix) to see a new movie. Baffled here....and frustrated because this one is one of the rare releases I'd go to see.
The movie was originally going to be made by Paramount but they balked at the cost (150 million) so Netflix came in and financed it.

In order to be considered for an Oscar the movie must be played in theaters. Netflix negotiated with the big theater chains (AMC, Regal etc) but they wanted the movie to be played in theaters for 60 days. Netflix was willing to do 45 days but the theater owners refused.

So Netflix put the movie in independent theater across the country, releasing it for streaming on November 27th.
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Old 11-25-2019, 03:22 PM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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The movie was originally going to be made by Paramount but they balked at the cost (150 million) so Netflix came in and financed it.

In order to be considered for an Oscar the movie must be played in theaters. Netflix negotiated with the big theater chains (AMC, Regal etc) but they wanted the movie to be played in theaters for 60 days. Netflix was willing to do 45 days but the theater owners refused.

So Netflix put the movie in independent theater across the country, releasing it for streaming on November 27th.
Thank you for your response and explanation.

So Netflix figures on bringing in more revenue than Paramount would have with a full theater release? That's hard for me, as an old-school guy, to get my mind around. I have no interest whatsoever in any streaming subscription services. Plus, there's still a big difference between the big screen experience and all but the most exotic and elaborate home theaters....that most people don't have.

I was planning on going this morning, but just didn't feel up to it due to a tough semi-sleepless night last night. Looks like tomorrow is my last chance as apparently that is the last day for theaters. I'll see how I feel.
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Old 11-25-2019, 07:09 PM
 
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I can't wait to see this on Netflix.
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Old 11-25-2019, 07:25 PM
 
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I don't begin to understand the distribution of this movie. Supposedly it was released November 1st (limited) and yet there are no audience reviews on Rotten Tomatoes? To my knowledge, it hasn't been in any of the mainstream theaters nearby me.

What is the Netflix connection and how is it that they seem to be controlling this? I'm sure not gonna start jumping through extra hoops (like subscribing to Netflix) to see a new movie. Baffled here....and frustrated because this one is one of the rare releases I'd go to see.
The reason for this is there's a Motion Picture Academy rules that to be able to be nominated for Academy awards, the film has to be shown in some theaters for a certain length of time before going to streaming. I don't know the release requirements, but Netflix is doing what the rules require, before streaming it. Also, it's being shown a little longer than Netflix wanted because some theaters would make a deal only for that length of time.

The official release date, according to imdb, is 11/27/19. I don't know if that's when it streams on Netflix, or wider release at theaters. Movies are usu. released early for screening by critics. Then there are some pre-release screenings to the general public in a few places, people tell me. That's why there are often audience ratings for things not released yet. IMDB has user ratings for The Irishman (rating it 8.7).

It may not play in a theater in my mid-sized city at all. But I subscribe to Netflix. If you wanted to see it, you could do a Netflix free trial. I never do that, with the intent not to subscribe, but some people do.
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Old 11-26-2019, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Maine
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The reason for this is there's a Motion Picture Academy rules that to be able to be nominated for Academy awards.
I wish filmmakers would wake up, realize what a joke the Oscars are, and stop chasing them. Just make a great movie. Don't worry about being invited to the meat parade.
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Old 11-26-2019, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Thank you for your response and explanation.

So Netflix figures on bringing in more revenue than Paramount would have with a full theater release? That's hard for me, as an old-school guy, to get my mind around. I have no interest whatsoever in any streaming subscription services. Plus, there's still a big difference between the big screen experience and all but the most exotic and elaborate home theaters....that most people don't have.

I was planning on going this morning, but just didn't feel up to it due to a tough semi-sleepless night last night. Looks like tomorrow is my last chance as apparently that is the last day for theaters. I'll see how I feel.



I honestly don't think it was ever going to do that well in theaters to begin with. As I stated before, Scorsese used a lot of the budget to use CGI/digital de-aging technology on De Niro, Pesci, and Pacino. Paramount was concerned when they saw how much this film was going to cost them. An awful lot of CGI was used for a movie that didn't need a drop of it. And it looked really bad on Scorsese's part. It basically said, "Yeah, these guys are in their 70's, but we can make them look young again! And every single punch thrown will be from a stunt double; it's genius!" Those costs can kill a budget very quickly, and his budget wasn't big to begin with. We are also in the age of cinema where these guys don't have the same star power as they once had. Half of America thinks De Niro should be in the loony bin for his rants about Trump, and a lot of people no longer want to support his movies. So Hollywood didn't have much faith in this film, and they let Scorsese know it. He's lucky Netflix was willing to ink a deal with him.
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