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Old 12-02-2019, 12:23 PM
 
Location: NJ/NYC
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Eh, this left a lot to be desired. It was decent but not what I would expect from Scorsese.

Use different actors, the aging and deaging was absurd.

What was going on with Pacino's hair? They couldn't do better than that? Come on.

There was no character development whatsoever. And too long like every Scorsese movie over the past 15 years. Sorry for being a whiner, but this movie just didn't do it for me. People in here comparing this to Goodfellas?!?!? In what universe?

5/10
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Old 12-02-2019, 01:02 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
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As much as I love Pacino, I think he was actually the weakest link in the movie. Part of it was simply that he looks nothing like Jimmy Hoffa physically, and I had a hard time getting past that. But part of it was that he was simply being Pacino, not Hoffa. He's not bad exactly. But he's definitely the weakest link in an otherwise great cast.



EXACTLY!!


I thought Joe Pesci did an OUTSTANDING job..... the sick look on his face when Frank gets called on the carpet for doing something he probably shouldn't have and without having asked permission to do so..... He didn't need to say a word, his expression conveyed everything......
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Old 12-02-2019, 07:23 PM
 
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Heard so many differing opinions on this one.

Slow paced, terrible de-aging effects, as well as lackluster performances by some seem to be common complaints.

Oh well, will check it out now have some time.

I'm kind of bored of the mobster movie genre, but got nothing else to do now.
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Old 12-03-2019, 05:45 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Eh, this left a lot to be desired. It was decent but not what I would expect from Scorsese.

Use different actors, the aging and deaging was absurd.

What was going on with Pacino's hair? They couldn't do better than that? Come on.

There was no character development whatsoever. And too long like every Scorsese movie over the past 15 years. Sorry for being a whiner, but this movie just didn't do it for me. People in here comparing this to Goodfellas?!?!? In what universe?

5/10
BBM. I agree. Pacino's hair "effect" was crazy. I mean, we've all seen a receding hairline.. but this was an advancing hairline!
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Old 12-03-2019, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Use different actors, the aging and deaging was absurd.
Check out the geriatric shoes here! I thought he was going to topple over and reach for his LifeCall.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB8Hb2NwEis
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Old 12-03-2019, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Now compare the above scene to this. It was clear they needed a younger actor for at least that scene in the Irishman.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8OwyOah0Cg
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Old 12-03-2019, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Eh, this left a lot to be desired. It was decent but not what I would expect from Scorsese.

Use different actors, the aging and deaging was absurd.

What was going on with Pacino's hair? They couldn't do better than that? Come on.

There was no character development whatsoever. And too long like every Scorsese movie over the past 15 years. Sorry for being a whiner, but this movie just didn't do it for me. People in here comparing this to Goodfellas?!?!? In what universe?

5/10
My exact thoughts. The de-aging made the characters look different than they ever looked--it is not how they looked when young--just looked weird. Also unnecessarily long scenes. No character development or relationships--all business.

I'd give it a 6/10. Sadly, all this talent--and it was really just an average film.
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Old 12-03-2019, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Sarasota, FL
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Eh, this left a lot to be desired. It was decent but not what I would expect from Scorsese.
. . .
There was no character development whatsoever. And too long like every Scorsese movie over the past 15 years. Sorry for being a whiner, but this movie just didn't do it for me. People in here comparing this to Goodfellas?!?!? In what universe?

5/10
My exact thoughts.... unnecessarily long scenes. No character development or relationships--all business.

I'd give it a 6/10. Sadly, all this talent--and it was really just an average film.
Agree with most of the above. I'd give it 3/10. Watched it because I figured many people would be talking about it. But it was really a slow-moving documentary. And honestly documentaries are more entertaining than this.
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Old 12-03-2019, 06:22 PM
 
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Seen one hour of the movie so far, and I really like it.

I guess it proves that when you go into something with incredibly low expectations, sometimes the bar is so low your expectations are easily surpassed.

I agree with how ridiculous the de-aging was, at least the first time we see it when Pesci is helping DeNiro fix his truck. It was so bad, I could see Pesci's CGI face not blending in with the rest of his body. I think it gets better later on though because you kind of get used to it.

Pacino looks absolutely nothing like Hoffa except for the hair and doesn't sound like him either; Jack Nicholson looked and sounded a lot more closer to Hoffa. I don't even see Pacino as Hoffa but just another leader of the Teamsters, with the usual Pacino mannerisms.

Story is going along at a nice pace and will continue watching.
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Old 12-03-2019, 08:54 PM
 
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Finished second hour and still very good to me.

Some of the subplots were odd though and felt it threw off the timing somewhat.

Especially when you go from Hoffa in prison and brawling, to a completely different story about the mobster Joey Gallo (one of the most fascinating mafiosos to ever live). If you didn't know the backstory, you'd have no idea what was going on with a guy getting shot (they don't even put a graphic in the scene explaining who got shot and why).
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