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Old 10-23-2012, 12:24 PM
 
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He said, she said. You don't know this for a fact.
Are you insinuating that while Mr Bergerons kid was in need of immediate medical intervention he decided to play some kind of linguistic game?
With the number of these kinds of linguistic stories going on in Montreal these days i'm inclined to take Mr Bergeron at his word.
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Old 10-23-2012, 12:38 PM
 
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Are you insinuating that while Mr Bergerons kid was in need of immediate medical intervention he decided to play some kind of linguistic game?
With the number of these kinds of linguistic stories going on in Montreal these days i'm inclined to take Mr Bergeron at his word.
I am not insinuating that at all. The idea that Mr. Bergeron would do this in an emergency situation is only slightly more preposterous than someone who is a trained professional whose job it is to provide critical care would deliberately "make a point" about language in the exact same situation.

As I said - we don't know anything about the language skills of the paramedic. Bergeron says that he "flatly refused to speak to him in English"...

If someone speaks to me in Russian and I cannot respond in Russian, I guess that is "flatly refusing to speak to them in Russian", right?
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Old 10-23-2012, 01:07 PM
 
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Do you really think the Russian analogy is appropriate in this case?

I just talked to my daughter who is one of the emergency dispatch girls for Montreals entire west island and although her territory only extends from Dorval to St Anne de Belleview she says she has never encountered a parameidic in her area that doesnt speak very good English, she finds it odd that the very next EMT jurisdiction to St Anne De Belleview (Dorion)would have radically different hiring standards and only hire unilingual Francophones.
AJ maybe living in the Ottawa region you arent seeing this new trend toward French only or Transit worker syndrome as i like to call it here in Montreal.
This kind of stuff
CJAD 800
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Old 10-23-2012, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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It's always good to know what is going on in the rest of the country:

Le 9-1-1 répond seulement en anglais | Samuel Blais-Gauthier, Correspondant régional | Est ontarien

Issues about English-only 911 operators in Ontario's Prescott-Russell counties. Which are 70% French-speaking.
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Old 10-23-2012, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Do you really think the Russian analogy is appropriate in this case?

I just talked to my daughter who is one of the emergency dispatch girls for Montreals entire west island and although her territory only extends from Dorval to St Anne de Belleview she says she has never encountered a parameidic in her area that doesnt speak very good English, she finds it odd that the very next EMT jurisdiction to St Anne De Belleview (Dorion)would have radically different hiring standards and only hire unilingual Francophones.
AJ maybe living in the Ottawa region you arent seeing this new trend toward French only or Transit worker syndrome as i like to call it here in Montreal.
This kind of stuff
CJAD 800
On CJAD the guy from the ambulance cooperative that is responsible for Montérégie region (including Vaudreuil-Dorion where these people live) said that as a general rule all of their paramedics are supposed to know how to speak at least basic English. Montérégie region is something like 8% English-speaking, so wall-to-wall bilingualism for paramedics there sounds like a pretty good deal for local anglos, even if there are occasional unfortunate blips like this one.
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Old 10-23-2012, 01:20 PM
 
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Well I still think educators in Quebec should have a rudimentary knowledge of both French and English. That should be part of their training, to learn enough of the language that is not their mother language, to be able to communicate on a basic level.

I went to graduate school at the University of Ottawa, and I was required to take French in order to graduate because it was a bilingual university. And vice-versa, all native French speakers were required to take a couple of English language courses. So I don't understand why that couldn't be made a requirement for an education degree in Quebec, that French speakers have at the minimum the ability to speak simple English, and that native English speakers are required to learn simple French. Not such a big deal.
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Old 10-23-2012, 01:21 PM
 
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Well I still think educators in Quebec should have a rudimentary knowledge of both French and English. That should be part of their training, to learn enough of the language that is not their mother language, to be able to communicate on a basic level.

I went to graduate school at the University of Ottawa, and I was required to take French in order to graduate because it was a bilingual university. And vice-versa, all native French speakers were required to take a couple of English language course. So I don't understand why that couldn't be made a requirement for an education degree in Quebec, that French speakers have at the minimum the ability to speak simple English. Not such a big deal.
What about the rest of the country?
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Old 10-23-2012, 01:22 PM
 
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Do you really think the Russian analogy is appropriate in this case?

I just talked to my daughter who is one of the emergency dispatch girls for Montreals entire west island and although her territory only extends from Dorval to St Anne de Belleview she says she has never encountered a parameidic in her area that doesnt speak very good English, she finds it odd that the very next EMT jurisdiction to St Anne De Belleview (Dorion)would have radically different hiring standards and only hire unilingual Francophones.
AJ maybe living in the Ottawa region you arent seeing this new trend toward French only or Transit worker syndrome as i like to call it here in Montreal.
This kind of stuff
CJAD 800
Interesting poll from Ottawa-Gatineau:

Ottawa and Gatineau: Two and a Half Solitudes - SkyscraperPage Forum
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Old 10-23-2012, 01:31 PM
 
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I haven't been able to find statistics as to what percentage of Quebec residents are bilingual vs French only vs English only---so if someone knows how to find that it would be helpful.
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Old 10-23-2012, 01:38 PM
 
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Just going to post a link to that story.Here it is.
CJAD 800
Its guys with this ignorant French only attitude in conjunction with the governments xenophobic attitudes that will ensure more people/business either leave Quebec or just decide not to come here at all ultimately assuring a totally Francophone Quebec and a demise of the French culture to a totally linguistic backwater in the Middle of N.America.
AJ i cant believe you think its in the best interest of the Quebec people to isolate themselves to this extent especially since in a previous post you acknowledged the relevance of the Anglo culture within Quebec..
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