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Old 06-11-2012, 02:37 AM
 
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I'm wondering if this Montreal protest movement is going to start happening in other cities like the Occupy Wall Street movement.So far i havent heard of it spreading.Certainly seems to be giving the perpetrators a sense of empowerment as the government tries to placate their wishes.
I can only imagine what it costs to have thousands of police on the streets on a nightly basis, gee wonder if our taxes will go up to pay for the massive police presence?
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Old 06-11-2012, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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It seems to be a cultural particularity of Quebec (shared with other countries of the world, but perhaps not so much with other North Americans).

If you look for example at the economic situation of a lot of people in the U.S., it's a lot more dire and pressing than a $1500 a year increase in university tuition over three years.

And yet the Occupy movement was miniscule (in relative terms) compared to the student movement in Quebec.
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Old 06-11-2012, 07:29 AM
 
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Other cities can only hope they dont get afflicted with this particular phenomenon.At this point i'm thinking its become just a nightly cat and mouse game with hooligans and anarchists having fun with the cops.

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I thought the tuition Raise was $300 per semester for the next 5 yrs making it an even more paltry $600 per year raise in top of the current cost of $1500 per year to go to University in Quebec...
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Old 06-11-2012, 08:51 AM
 
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It seems to be a cultural particularity of Quebec (shared with other countries of the world, but perhaps not so much with other North Americans).

If you look for example at the economic situation of a lot of people in the U.S., it's a lot more dire and pressing than a $1500 a year increase in university tuition over three years.

And yet the Occupy movement was miniscule (in relative terms) compared to the student movement in Quebec.
Yeah, I was just thinking about how there is such a contrast between the Montreal students' protest (it's more serious, targeted, with a goal) versus Occupy Wall Street which seemed almost disorganized and just a bunch of young people who are complaining about "greed", but who lack an idea of what they want. Even if you don't admire/agree with their views, I find it such a contrast with how politically serious/active young people are. It almost seems something that'd happen in the '60s!

Also, I started this thread related to this topic.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/colle...-movement.html

Even though the US did have free university education in California until the Reagan years according to another poster, it seems this is almost a non-issue now in the United States.

I've heard it been said how the "rest of Canada" looks to the US, and thinks (smugly), how much they are not like them sociopolitically, but Quebec looks to France/Europe/the Old World's socio-political norms and thinks about how they should be like them, and that's why there is such a difference.
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Old 06-12-2012, 12:20 AM
 
Location: The heart of Cascadia
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They have no idea how privileged they still are with tuition compared to Americans, but I still support them. Elementary, middle and high school is free, why not college?

IMO making college free would greatly increase the upward mobility of the classes. The cost of tuition is a large part of the reason income inequality in America is increasing.
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Old 06-12-2012, 08:23 AM
 
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Having a college degree is just about worthless nowadays, unless you're in a field where there is a great demand. I wonder how many of those protestors in Montreal have degrees in art history, political science and stuff like that. I also wonder how many of them have been indoctrinated with left-wing claptrap and believe they can get more of something for nothing.
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:09 AM
 
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I also wonder how many of them have been indoctrinated with left-wing claptrap and believe they can get more of something for nothing.
Canada being much more of a socialist country than the USA we dont pay as much attention to the issue of political hysteria as those in the USA do.
As for getting stuff for nothing that may be of major importance stateside but up here we call it social programs and most of it isnt for nothing we pay high taxes to cover our social programs.
As for the students?Their time is fast approaching when it will be time to settle down get married,have kids and bring home a paycheck whether it be through hard work or the career welfare option isnt a big deal for any one but them as you dont make much of a life on welfare which is usually given to single mothers. if you are a single male you wont even qualify for it, for now the students are just letting off some youthful steam and having fun with the cops every night,if i was 50 years younger i'd probably be out there with them..
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Old 06-12-2012, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Lethbridge, AB
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I'm wondering if this Montreal protest movement is going to start happening in other cities like the Occupy Wall Street movement.So far i havent heard of it spreading.Certainly seems to be giving the perpetrators a sense of empowerment as the government tries to placate their wishes.
I can only imagine what it costs to have thousands of police on the streets on a nightly basis, gee wonder if our taxes will go up to pay for the massive police presence?
I can't see it spreading through the West, outside of a small scattering of diehard protesters.

Public sentiment seems to be strongly against the student movement out here - though it shifted slightly toward them when the Quebec government introduced that bill to curtail protests.
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Old 06-13-2012, 07:02 AM
 
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Public sentiment isnt with the students(at this point a very loose term of description ) here in Montreal either or at least in the English sector people i talk to.
heres their new means of irritating every one ..
Montreal protesters' fascist salute widely condemned | CTV Montreal
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Old 06-13-2012, 11:03 AM
 
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I'm all for peaceful protests and demonstrations.
Anyone think thats what this guy and his ilk have in mind when attending one of the daily Montreal rallys?

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