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Old 03-07-2016, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Flawduh
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Why would Toronto/Ontario be less humid than Montreal? They are about the same. If not the same then even more humid in Toronto.
I've always found Montreal to FEEL hotter than Toronto during the summer... Not sure what it is.
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Old 03-07-2016, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Toronto has lake breezes to cool things down a bit in the summer. That probably mitigates any difference there might be between it and the slightly more northern Montreal for summer temperatures.


I've always found them to be very very similar in the summer.
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Old 03-07-2016, 04:19 PM
 
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Why would Toronto/Ontario be less humid than Montreal? They are about the same. If not the same then even more humid in Toronto.
I guess the particular location in Ontario is of importance here. Areas closer to the big lakes may show more humidity - even more than MTL. I was rather having Waterloo ON in mind when I was doing the comparison.
So, based on direct, observable experience, Waterloo ON felt less humid than Montreal QC. Thanks.
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Old 03-08-2016, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Montreal, QC
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Humidex is a good, objective factor to measure it. As some other poster was noting - after a looong cold winter, it's not that pleasant to see shorter and uncomfortable summers.
Humidex is definately not an objective measure. That's actually my problem with it. Not everyone perceives humidity the same way, as has been proven by all the posters here saying stuff like Montreal felt more humid than Toronto or Montreal felt more humid than Waterloo.

Humidex values are non-sense. It's sensationalism. Weather forecasters will make a bigger deal out of a few days above 30 degrees in Montreal than in Toronto, just as their criteria for windchill warnings in Toronto are issued for temperatures where they wouldn't be in Montreal. So that plays a role too.

I'm not saying humidity is not a factor in how a person perceives heat, I'm just saying humidex is not a proper way of measuring it. Why don't other countries use this system too?
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Old 03-08-2016, 07:05 PM
 
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I'm not saying humidity is not a factor in how a person perceives heat, I'm just saying humidex is not a proper way of measuring it. Why don't other countries use this system too?
Some of the European countries (i.e. Romania) seem to make use of humidex too in their televised weather broadcasts. Which for not really needed for a country with a more temperate/continental/drier climate.
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Old 03-08-2016, 09:49 PM
 
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Other countries do use humidex though...
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Old 03-09-2016, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Montreal, QC
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Other countries do use humidex though...
Which ones? The US uses a heat index sometimes. In Canada, during summertime, 90% of people refer to the humidex value instead of what the actual temperature is. Humidex is not a temperature.

Should we develop a value for what it really feels like in the sun as well? Try being under direct sunlight for 30 minutes in 35 degree weather with no humidity. To some people it might be more painful that sitting under a tree on a 30 degree weather day wtih a humidex value of 40.

Here is an interesting article that talks about both the pros and cons of the humidex index.
The humidex, the flawed Canadian way to calculate summer discomfort - Canada - CBC News
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Old 03-09-2016, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Flawduh
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Which ones? The US uses a heat index sometimes. In Canada, during summertime, 90% of people refer to the humidex value instead of what the actual temperature is. Humidex is not a temperature.

Should we develop a value for what it really feels like in the sun as well? Try being under direct sunlight for 30 minutes in 35 degree weather with no humidity. To some people it might be more painful that sitting under a tree on a 30 degree weather day wtih a humidex value of 40.

Here is an interesting article that talks about both the pros and cons of the humidex index.
The humidex, the flawed Canadian way to calculate summer discomfort - Canada - CBC News
True. Here in FL, forecasters always use the humidex value (along with the actual temperature.) Typical summer forecasts look like:
High: 90, Feels like: 108
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Old 03-09-2016, 04:41 PM
 
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Which ones? The US uses a heat index sometimes. In Canada, during summertime, 90% of people refer to the humidex value instead of what the actual temperature is. Humidex is not a temperature.

Should we develop a value for what it really feels like in the sun as well? Try being under direct sunlight for 30 minutes in 35 degree weather with no humidity. To some people it might be more painful that sitting under a tree on a 30 degree weather day wtih a humidex value of 40.

Here is an interesting article that talks about both the pros and cons of the humidex index.
The humidex, the flawed Canadian way to calculate summer discomfort - Canada - CBC News
It's not called humidex but eastern European countries forecast tempertures with humidity. A lot of other places use "feels like" which is used for both the humidity and wind chill.
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Old 03-09-2016, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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If I lived in Montreal, I would actually be looking forward to summer. I know it gets warm there, but calling summers hot and humid is a stretch.

I live in Atlanta, and I'm dreading summer. The weather is already too warm for early March here -- highs of about 27 Celsius this week. This evening, I'm sitting at my desk upstairs with the window open and it feels humid and a bit uncomfortable, almost tempting me to turn on the A/C.

This topic makes me chuckle because there was a similar thread about summer weather in the Atlanta forum, and several people said they find Atlanta summers to be comfortable... they were comparing the weather to places in Texas and Florida. It's all relative.
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