Cost of living and its trend (Helena: good credit, how much, construction)

[TheKezarWoodsman]

an hour to a hospital is on my outer limits, but manageable. Im well enough managed that i dont risk a Coma, or the like, rather its just when i get sick, which will take a long long time to kill (days of extensive vomiting/loose stools with very very little insulin), only reason i need one is Ketones (caused by vomiting in this case), induce more vomiting (its a sick spiral). Normally i can catch them before reaching a level where i should go to a hospital, but even at those levels its far off from immediate harm.

Other injurys for a hospital IMHO, if it will kill you/worse in 1 hour even WITH basic first aid, then you dont have much hope even if it was 20 minutes away.

Jobs may be another issue, how do the 248 inhabitents make money? Some must be retired but not all by far. Home based buiseness im taking(i know in maine alot of people sell fir tips for wreaths, pick/sell wild blueberries, farm christmas trees, ect for some money, but they tend to make roughly 20-25k max) /telecommuniting?

[Clark Fork Fantast]

https://www.city-data.com/city/Yaak-Montana.html
Construction and transport. 11% unemployment.

[Tuck's Dad]

I looked up Noxon in the CD portion and saw the median income for 2013 was $61,540, however, last year when I was looking it was the median income for 2012 and was ~$27,000 (down about $3000 per year from 2000). That through me for a loop, but then I remembered, Noxon became a bit of a ghost town for men in 2013 and into 2014, because a large number of men left for N Dakota to work the oil fields, but the families stayed in the area, so the data is likely heavily skewed toward incomes earned elsewhere, not in Noxon/Sanders County.


I suspect the median income will stay high for 2014, and then drop back down into the high twenties/low thirties for 2015/16 due to low oil prices, and as people are laid off, and return home from working in N Dakota, and go back to work at local economy wages (we'll see once those numbers become available).

[historyfan]

That caught my eye, because I know Sanders County is the poorest county & the criminal justice system there is busy.

Maybe it was a glitch. Looks like $39,000.
https://www.city-data.com/zips/59853.html

[TheKezarWoodsman]

thats probally it

[TheKezarWoodsman]

I googled mt medicaid expasion for the hell of it. Medicaid.gov says it was not expanded. Did Mt not follow the expansion plan that other states did, or did it make its own?

[TheKezarWoodsman]

According to citydata eureka is worse off than troy, and troy is (slightly) worse off than yaak.

income in yaak is 22k, eureka is 16k. Homecosts are 130k in yaak, 160 in eureka. Unemployment is 9% in yaak, and 18%(why is it double) in eureka. Doesnt make sense.

all of sanders county seems on par with eureka, Lincoln seems on par with Yaak, just with a shorter unemployment (5%)

[TheKezarWoodsman]

Also do you guys consider mineral county as bad off?

[movintime]

Issue w/ going to poverished area is crime will be high. Folks got to get goods some way. Better to try to buy home in best area you can & have resale, etc. Safety helps in better area due to less poor can't afford it. That said, I have more a poor wallet & champagne tastes

[Senah]

Federal poverty level is determined by family size (# dependents) and other factors. It is not one set number.

And Medicaid expansion did pass. Here are the details from the state website - it went into effect on January 1st.

http://dphhs.mt.gov/medicaidexpansion