Nobody has anything to say about Jamar Clark? (apartments, crime)

[treemoni]

Nothing?

[my54ford]

don't jack with the cops?

[MidwestRedux]

Nobody knows exactly what happened. It would be inappropriate to jump to conclusions and/or suggest otherwise.

[Minnesota Spring]

You know, I was supportive of the BLM movement until I saw video of them burning the American flag outside of the police precinct on the news last night. I kept thinking to myself why? What purpose does that serve? Are we not all Americans? Is Black Lives Matter now aligning with ISIS?? What the heck!
It makes absolutely no sense and turns off a lot of people to their cause, black, white, hispanic etc. that are proud to be American. Maybe they could go live in Syria if they hate this country so much. We all get upset about injustice and inequity's in this country, but what a completely disgusting display!
And blocking a freeway. Sure, a good way to get attention to your cause, but this could have easily injured or killed drivers and protesters alike. It's simply a very dangerous way to make a point, possibly killing someone going about their own business because someone else was killed by police. Not very well thought out.

[montymontage]

Given the degree to which most political issues are cast in ideological terms, it pays to separate the activists from the issues. In other words, who cares if a few hillbillies burnt flags for cheap camera time (though it's weak sauce, it's a far cry from ISIS, btw). Likewise, who cares about police apologists forever justifying the unjustifiable.


There is a clear trend, going back centuries, of excessive and disproportionate force being used against black people in this country. The early reports do suggest he was unarmed when shot in the head, possibly while handcuffed.


Will people overact? Yes! Is that worse than pretending a crime didn't happen? I'm inclined to find the latter worse than former.

[piper89]

I am willing to give the police the benefit of the doubt until it is proven otherwise. Don't assault someone and attack the responding EMTs if you don't want to get shot by police .

The BLM movement is just another step in dividing people and is racist in nature. The problem is deeper than the big evil white man trying to get the black man down.

[MidwestRedux]

Originally Posted by Minnesota Spring

You know, I was supportive of the BLM movement until I saw video of them burning the American flag outside of the police precinct on the news last night. I kept thinking to myself why? What purpose does that serve? Are we not all Americans? Is Black Lives Matter now aligning with ISIS?? What the heck!
It makes absolutely no sense and turns off a lot of people to their cause, black, white, hispanic etc. that are proud to be American. Maybe they could go live in Syria if they hate this country so much. We all get upset about injustice and inequity's in this country, but what a completely disgusting display!
And blocking a freeway. Sure, a good way to get attention to your cause, but this could have easily injured or killed drivers and protesters alike. It's simply a very dangerous way to make a point, possibly killing someone going about their own business because someone else was killed by police. Not very well thought out.

BLM is a joke. They're a bunch of whiny narcissists that couldn't articulate the point of their existence if George Soros paid them to.

I would love to support a group that truly valued the lives of any vulnerable population. BLM does nothing of the sort. Never mind that they disregard black lives that are lost in fires and to gang wars. If they really cared about black lives, they would tell young black men to not fight with the police.

Again, we don't have any of the facts in this particular case and neither does BLM. Does anyone remember the witness accounts in the Michael Brown case? That's pretty much where this all started.

What's more disturbing than the group's existence is the eagerness of people to embrace it...

[srsmn]

Originally Posted by treemoni

Nothing?

What's to say? Another unarmed man (of color) terrorized by police, more promises of a thorough investigation that will yield no consequences for the terrorists that ended his life, another grieving family, and the right-wing apologists make their semi-regular pilgrimage from out of the woodwork.

Nothing to see here. Move along....

...back into your apartments, NOW!

[srsmn]

Originally Posted by piper89

I am willing to give the police the benefit of the doubt until it is proven otherwise. Don't assault someone and attack the responding EMTs if you don't want to get shot by police .

The BLM movement is just another step in dividing people and is racist in nature. The problem is deeper than the big evil white man trying to get the black man down.

Yup. Let's give the police the benefit of the doubt when they shoot a man point blank in the head.

In no other profession do we so regularly excuse people from potentially not doing their jobs correctly. When teachers can't raise test scores, you don't give them the "benefit of the doubt," you harangue their union, question their skills, call for their ousting, etc.

But a police officer shooting a man in the head (which ideally would never happen, and in practicality should only happen in the very, very rarest of frequency)?

Doesn't even raise an eyebrow. Not even a speculative glance.

Give them the benefit of the doubt, you say. I got news for you: giving them the "benefit of the doubt" is why this continues to happen...

[piper89]

Originally Posted by srsmn

Yup. Let's give the police the benefit of the doubt when they shoot a man point blank in the head.

In no other profession do we so regularly excuse people from potentially not doing their jobs correctly. When teachers can't raise test scores, you don't give them the "benefit of the doubt," you harangue their union, question their skills, call for their ousting, etc.

But a police officer shooting a man in the head (which ideally would never happen, and in practicality should only happen in the very, very rarest of frequency)?

Doesn't even raise an eyebrow. Not even a speculative glance.

Give them the benefit of the doubt, you say. I got news for you: giving them the "benefit of the doubt" is why this continues to happen...

Yeah, because the narrative really is that it was a blind execution.


We have a convicted felon with a history of violence that attacked EMTs just doing their job. I guess you figure they should just take that in stride. Who cares, for he is black and you cannot use force on them in our racist egalitarian society, even when they are attempting to make it so other people might not go home to their families. **** Jamar Clark. His parents should of raised a child that didn't rob people and assault them.