[edub]

Originally Posted by scolls

I think it's ironic people go to bars and liquir themselves up and complain about smokers "killing themselves"

I agree with the ban and could care less if the state made cigarettes illegal all together

The next thing they should ban is arrogant, self righteous, judgmental busy bodies like the one that made the above statement.

Studies have shown that people who drink tend to be healthier, wealthier and live longer than those that don't.

End rant.
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On a separate note,

I wonder where people think they get the right to sit next to me with a smoldering object that is getting smoke on me. The smoke triggers my allergies and it pollutes my clothes with stench and tar. If they have the right to do that, shouldn't I have the right to pull out a can of spray paint and spray their face and clothes? As far as I'm concerned, that smoke is a weapon just like pepper spray.

And if you watch smokers you can see just how rude and intrusive they are with their cancer sticks. Most of the time, they sit next to you at the bar and push the ashtray into your area because they don't want the smoke going on them either. And if they are holding the cigarette, they always hold it away from themselves and toward others to prevent the smoke from going back into their face. And then they have the nerve to get defensive when you ask them to move their cigarette away from your face.

I am a bit concerned over language that prohibits smoking in vehicles. Are the cops and courts going to have another reason to harass and extort money from people smoking in their own vehicles? That just isn't right.

[YAZ]

Originally Posted by scolls

The problem is, it harms other people. The government isn't saying you can't smoke, they are saying you can't smoke around others who don't want to be harmed by your smoke. Since people can't manage to smoke in private where it doesn't effect the health of others, the government has to step in.

Truth.

Out to dinner with friends, I'm not gonna light up a Macanudo while they're enjoying their salad.

A dear relative of mine gets ticked when she has to step outside to light up while visiting us here in The Valley of the Sun. I keep telling her that she should feel glad that we don't live in Michigan, cuz she'd be puffin' away in the cold garage by herself.

[scolls]

Originally Posted by edub

The next thing they should ban is arrogant, self righteous, judgmental busy bodies like the one that made the above statement.

Studies have shown that people who drink tend to be healthier, wealthier and live longer than those that don't.

End rant.
__________________________________________________ _______________

On a separate note,

I wonder where people think they get the right to sit next to me with a smoldering object that is getting smoke on me. The smoke triggers my allergies and it pollutes my clothes with stench and tar. If they have the right to do that, shouldn't I have the right to pull out a can of spray paint and spray their face and clothes? As far as I'm concerned, that smoke is a weapon just like pepper spray.

And if you watch smokers you can see just how rude and intrusive they are with their cancer sticks. Most of the time, they sit next to you at the bar and push the ashtray into your area because they don't want the smoke going on them either. And if they are holding the cigarette, they always hold it away from themselves and toward others to prevent the smoke from going back into their face. And then they have the nerve to get defensive when you ask them to move their cigarette away from your face.

I am a bit concerned over language that prohibits smoking in vehicles. Are the cops and courts going to have another reason to harass and extort money from people smoking in their own vehicles? That just isn't right.

Really? Got links to these studies? Is that being too arrogant to ask to read these studies?

[Specialbuddy]

Originally Posted by scolls

Really? Got links to these studies? Is that being too arrogant to ask to read these studies?

Wow. Still haven't learned how to use Google yet huh? That's pretty sad. Here, Let me google that for you

[edub]

Originally Posted by scolls

Really? Got links to these studies? Is that being too arrogant to ask to read these studies?

Are you too lazy to use Google? Here are two of many.

Drinkers earn more than teetotalers: study - Sep. 14, 2006

Drink up for a longer life - Aging - MSNBC.com

[scolls]

Originally Posted by Specialbuddy

Wow. Still haven't learned how to use Google yet huh? That's pretty sad. Here, Let me google that for you

I wanted the specific study he was referencing. I could go to google and pull a bunch of studies that show alcohol is bad for you.

Originally Posted by edub

Are you too lazy to use Google? Here are two of many.

Drinkers earn more than teetotalers: study - Sep. 14, 2006

Drink up for a longer life - Aging - MSNBC.com

Great so people who can afford to drink do. There is no correlation that shows drinking will help you earn wealth. All it shows is people who have wealth drink.

One Big Mac a month doesn't kill you either. The article doesn't mention who conducted the health studies. It also goes on to say that more alcohol has a negative impact so how was my statement wrong?

[jeeg]

Originally Posted by scolls

The thing is, the majority of people do not smoke, so why should a minority of a population ruin it for the majority of the people?

Let's get this into proper perspective here. We're talking about smoking in businesses here.
Prior to this law it was neither side "ruining it" for the other.

First - It was the business owner's choice, as to whether there would be smoking in that establishment. Not the clientelle.

Second (and most important) - It was the customers choice whether to enter that business or to go elsewhere.

Like I said, I am a non-smoker who frequents no smoking establishments. That is my choice. I have never missed out by choosing not to go into a smoke filled business. Even prior to this law there were FAR more smoke-free businesses there there were that allowed smoking.

We do not need excessive laws dictating how we should live. This used to be a country of freedoms based on choice.

[Wingnatic]

My opinion on this is that I'm ok with it even though I smoke . People that go to bars will most likely still go to bars but will have to step outside to light up . I would imagine any loss of customers in bars due to this new law will be outweighed by the new non smoking customers returning . This new law will not apply to casino gambling rooms only , but will apply to casino restaurants/hotel rooms . This new law will not apply to indian run casino's .

[scolls]

Originally Posted by jeeg

Let's get this into proper perspective here. We're talking about smoking in businesses here.
Prior to this law it was neither side "ruining it" for the other.

First - It was the business owner's choice, as to whether there would be smoking in that establishment. Not the clientelle.

Second (and most important) - It was the customers choice whether to enter that business or to go elsewhere.

Like I said, I am a non-smoker who frequents no smoking establishments. That is my choice. I have never missed out by choosing not to go into a smoke filled business. Even prior to this law there were FAR more smoke-free businesses there there were that allowed smoking.

We do not need excessive laws dictating how we should live. This used to be a country of freedoms based on choice.

Why should I be segregated from a business because I do not want to damage my health?

[danielj72]

Originally Posted by scolls

It should be common sense to put your child in a car seat. If you think otherwise, the government should have you sterelized

Many of us grew up before all this saftey hysteria and guess what we all lived through it!!! What gives anyone the right to use the power of goverment to force me to live the way they think I should live??? Its my right to not buckle up. Oh and did you know that MOST car seats are not used properly which makes them actually more dangerous? Unless your going to inspect every parents car to make sure they are using them right then they are worthless anyway.