Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Michigan
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 04-23-2009, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Michissippi
3,120 posts, read 8,067,455 times
Reputation: 2084

Advertisements

The Wall Street Journal ran an interesting article reporting on the results of a Spanish study which showed that Spain's policy of forcing green energy on people resulted in a loss of about 2.2 jobs per green job created (as well as very high electricity prices). Could something similar be part of Michigan's future? Is it time to elect a governor who knows what nuclear power is and who isn't afraid to use the word "nuclear" in speeches about energy policy?

Green Joblessness - WSJ.com
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 04-23-2009, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Grand Rapids Metro
8,882 posts, read 19,861,925 times
Reputation: 3920
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bhaalspawn View Post
The Wall Street Journal ran an interesting article reporting on the results of a Spanish study which showed that Spain's policy of forcing green energy on people resulted in a loss of about 2.2 jobs per green job created (as well as very high electricity prices). Could something similar be part of Michigan's future? Is it time to elect a governor who knows what nuclear power is and who isn't afraid to use the word "nuclear" in speeches about energy policy?

Green Joblessness - WSJ.com
It's a poor comparison to Michigan. We have nowhere near the energy regulations that Spain has, which drives up the cost of traditional electric generation tremendously.

I'd love to see more nuclear power plants in Michigan. Better than those coal smokestacks on the lakeshore spewing toxins and soot into the air over Grand Rapids.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-24-2009, 07:03 PM
 
850 posts, read 1,899,328 times
Reputation: 725
there's too many factors differentiating the two scenarios (spain/michigan) to even compare.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-24-2009, 07:13 PM
 
73,048 posts, read 62,657,702 times
Reputation: 21943
Michigan can use the jobs. If the green industry takes off in Michigan, well, Michigan can make a comeback.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-24-2009, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Area, Michigan
1,107 posts, read 3,072,629 times
Reputation: 537
Brush up on some E.U. laws and not just Spain's laws.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-24-2009, 07:20 PM
 
73,048 posts, read 62,657,702 times
Reputation: 21943
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jwo85 View Post
Brush up on some E.U. laws and not just Spain's laws.
I don't know what EU laws have to do with Michigan getting alternative energy. I will look into EU energy policy.

Last edited by green_mariner; 04-24-2009 at 07:34 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-24-2009, 07:37 PM
 
73,048 posts, read 62,657,702 times
Reputation: 21943
I checked on the energy policy for the EU. The goal was to have more energy independence and less dependence on foreign energy. I don't see how Michigan getting into alternative energy would hurt the EU? I particularly don't see how especially since the EU is working harder for alternative energy than the USA. Actually, a thought just came to me. If the USA does invest in more alternative energy, it would depend less on foreign energy and it would buy less from other nations. Europe is striving for that goal too.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-24-2009, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
26,430 posts, read 46,615,085 times
Reputation: 19585
The key is that we as a nation will have to "go back to our roots" and invest in our local communities, grow food locally, and support local businesses. The less of a globalized stance we take with regard to where our energy and food comes from the better off we will be as a country. Join a local Community Supported Agriculture program. I don't trust the FDA. I grow as much food as I can on a small scale on my own land during the growing season. I don't fuel my house with oil, but use a combination of wood (from my land), wood pellets, and passive solar heat. As for electricity, contact your reps or state govt to ask about the renewable energy standards for cogeneration in order to find out the tax credit percentage amount.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-25-2009, 12:12 AM
YAZ
 
Location: Phoenix,AZ
7,708 posts, read 14,093,726 times
Reputation: 7044
Michigan should sell water.

What the hell, MI sold land for Canada's trash....


Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-25-2009, 09:02 PM
 
73,048 posts, read 62,657,702 times
Reputation: 21943
Quote:
Originally Posted by YAZ View Post
Michigan should sell water.

What the hell, MI sold land for Canada's trash....


I don't think selling water is necessary, but Michigan should use the green industry as a way to bring a revival to the state.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Settings
X
Data:
Loading data...
Based on 2000-2022 data
Loading data...

123
Hide US histogram


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Michigan

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top