Population slightly down in MA 2022 (Boston: community college, wages, live)

[Lampert]

July 1st 2022 data released today.

MA has now 6,981,974 people. 7,700 less than last year equivalent to -0.11%

https://www.census.gov/data/tables/t...age_2011805803

The US overall was up 0.38%

New England % changes

ME 0.59
NH 0.56
CT 0.08
VT 0.01
MA -0.11
RI -0.3


Last year:
ME 1
CT 0.72
NH 0.65
VT 0.63
RI 0.06
MA -0.09

It seems the trend of people moving to the actual middle of nowhere (VT, ME) is slowing down fast. Possibly will reverse next year?
NH can probably sustain the growth to the proximity to Boston metro in its southern part where most people live anyway.
MA keeps bleeding some people due to high COL.
CT and RI...no idea.

[msRB311]

Send illegals here. That will make up for it

[Lampert]

Originally Posted by msRB311

Send illegals here. That will make up for it

Illegals are definitely undercounted. Not the best way to increase the population. Send legals instead

[masssachoicetts]

NYC losing 500k people in three years is laughable. ... when vacancy is at an all time low and persons per household are at an all time high. Things don't add up at all.

[timberline742]

We definitely need immigrants. Its funny that someone posted that hospital losses thread a bit ago and blamed "illegals" when they clearly didn't read the article, never mind know anything about healthcare staffing. I have a close friend here in RI that teaches CNAs, and another that teaches nursing at a MA community college. Here in RI about 80% of the people taking her CNA classes are immigrants. Over half at the community college with the largest group Haitian. The supply of those low level nurses and CNAs is way way waaaay too small and its driving the costs up. Good in some ways, CNAs are paid criminally low wages still, but these cost increases and the delays in the profitable elective surgeries is really hitting some hospital systems badly. We need significantly more immigration. Canada at least has recognized this. I wish we would.

[bostongymjunkie]

We need legal immigration, not illegal immigration. The people doing those jobs by and large came here legally.

[timberline742]

Originally Posted by bostongymjunkie

We need legal immigration, not illegal immigration. The people doing those jobs by and large come here legally.

Some do, some don't. We make it so sickening hard to immigrate here. Most of the Haitian CNAs I met came here as asylum seekers, people on this far right board consider them "illegals" overwhelmingly from what I see. Example: The thread about the asylum seekers on MV being called "illegals".

[Lampert]

Originally Posted by timberline742

Some do, some don't. We make it so sickening hard to immigrate here. Most of the Haitian CNAs I met came here as asylum seekers, people on this far right board consider them "illegals" overwhelmingly from what I see. Example: The thread about the asylum seekers on MV being called "illegals".

Are you talking about city-data or the MA subforum specifically? Because the MA subforum is by far one of the most moderate, most other state forums have a much larger share of far-right people.

[bostongymjunkie]

Originally Posted by timberline742

Some do, some don't. We make it so sickening hard to immigrate here. Most of the Haitian CNAs I met came here as asylum seekers, people on this far right board consider them "illegals" overwhelmingly from what I see. Example: The thread about the asylum seekers on MV being called "illegals".

Actually many if not most Haitians are here under Temporary Protected Status which is not illegal and which most informed people understand is a policy targeting legitimate refuge from ongoing unrest resulting from both natural and political forces in that country. In other words, a bulk of them have valid legitimate claims, not BS. People from Haiti represent the smallest segment of people granted asylum in the US. Others come here by way of marriage. And only Germany takes more legal immigrants than the US. But the ones we get illegally dwarf any country.

[timberline742]

Originally Posted by bostongymjunkie

Actually many if not most Haitians are here under Temporary Protected Status which is not illegal and which most informed people understand is a policy targeting legitimate refuge from ongoing unrest resulting from both natural and political forces in that country. In other words, a bulk of them have valid legitimate claims, not BS. People from Haiti represent the smallest segment of people granted asylum in the US. Others come here by way of marriage. And only Germany takes more legal immigrants than the US. But the ones we get illegally dwarf any country.

Which most Venezuelans would have as well, with the 100+ years of our bleeping with their country and working to destablize it.

And I didn't say anything many or most Haitians, I was speaking specifically about the ones I spoke to who were studying to be or were CNAs/nurses.

As a percentage of the population and compared to our land mass, we take in very few immigrants legally. We WILL need to scale that up considerably.