No Moose Permits......again! (Clinton, Winn: house, to buy, school)

[Maineah]

None of my hunting buddies or I were drawn for a moose permit ...again!
I have had three of them so I'm not complaining, though none of my friends have ever won one. It seems strange with the odds way down from when I won that no one else would get one. Oh well what's another $22 dollars to the State.

Check here to see if you're one of the lucky winners.

Maine Department of Inland Fisheries and Wildlife - 2009 Moose Lottery Winners (http://moose.informe.org/index.htm - broken link)

[round tuit]

On May 11, I learned from the TM of Clinton Maine, that the house in the old picture from 1900, was found in Clinton (see albums).

The next day, on May 12th, a moterist reported a 500 pound moose fell out of the sky!
The moose fell 18 feet, when it jumped a guardrail on an overpass on I-95 and ended up on Hinckley road, DOA. I don't know how they weighed it in that state?? The Driver who reported it, was "pretty excited"!

[SIZE=4]Maybe you're looking in the wrong place. Just bring along your Maine DL, and look skyward in Clinton![/SIZE]

[cebdark]

Nope. We didn't get one this year either. I do have a hunting coworker whose husband did 'tho.

My DH put in for over 20 years before he got one. My son was hoping for a couple of days off from school. Bummer!

[Maineah]

Not something you want to see falling from the sky!

[Maineah]

Originally Posted by reloop

Nope. We didn't get one this year either. I do have a hunting coworker whose husband did 'tho.

My DH put in for over 20 years before he got one. My son was hoping for a couple of days off from school. Bummer!

With all of the chances the State sells(cash cow) and gives away it's possible for a person to accumulate 10 or more chances per year. Multiply that by 10 family members and the family gets 100 chances per year! I think it should be one chance per LICENCED hunter like it used to be. No more raffling off permits to the highest bidders, getting everyone and their brother to enter whether they have ever hunted before or not, and out of staters should be alternates only!

[Kracer]

and finally I felt this would be my year to win a moose permit!

Wrong, so wrong. I'll be too old to pull back the string on my bow when I finally get picked.

[Maineah]

Originally Posted by Kracer

and finally I felt this would be my year to win a moose permit!

Wrong, so wrong. I'll be too old to pull back the string on my bow when I finally get picked.

The lottery USED to be fair. It was open to LEGITIMATE LICENSED hunters only so dedicated hunters were the only ones picked. You had to have your license number before you applied for a permit so it weeded out the family of 20 putting in every cousin, aunt Zelda, and the nine year old twins. The way it is set up now you can pay $22 dollars and buy six chances.You don't have to have a hunting license beforehand, and if you do not get drawn you automatically get an extra chance thrown in the following year. It is conceivable that a large family could invest a couple of hundred dollars and walk away with 150 or more chances! The single guy gets the shaft here as he has only six chances if he wants to pay $22.00 or one if he does not. Even though there were only 56,000 applicants for 3000 permits that adds up to over 336,000 to one if every person buys the six or those with more average out to the six per applicant. It may be an even higher number than that! Odds are very much in favor of large families who sign up everyone they can find to get a permit. It should go back to only licensed hunters, they should not raffle off any permits and out of staters should be on an alternate list instead of being in the lottery. It was supposed to be a way for legitimate Maine hunters to get a fair chance at bagging a moose not a cash cow for IFandW or a freezer filling opportunity for extended families.

[Kracer]

Those guys are sharp!
Selling hope to thousands is priceless.
Having a mission statement of giving Maine hunters a chance to hunt a moose is not a reality. A good marketing slogan but not quite reality.

The mission statement is generating money. The lottery is perfectly structured to create loopholes and schemes for the chance takers to be creative. Cutiing off those loopholes will lose mondo $$$$ for the state.

Minus non resident lottery fees and subsequent license fees would put the patient in critical care.

At this point, I realize what the moose lottery is and each chance buys me a few months of hope, something to look forward to. Think luck, not statistics or you will make yourself crazy. If God wants you to shoot a moose, He only requires you buy one ticket. If the state of Maine wants you to shoot a moose they'll urge you to buy into a statistical argument that 3 more chances/$$$$$ will improve your odds of being
selected. Mathematically true but infintesimal improvement of odds.

MDIFW also has a neat method of 'contact us' on their website. Fill out the tedious form, ask your questions and click 'return'. A note pops up claiming you forget to complete an asterisked field. 'go back' and everything you entered is GONE. Keeps the riff raf away from the understaffed office. Will keep most men from ever asking the state a question.

[Maineah]

Originally Posted by Kracer

Those guys are sharp!
Selling hope to thousands is priceless.
Having a mission statement of giving Maine hunters a chance to hunt a moose is not a reality. A good marketing slogan but not quite reality.

The mission statement is generating money. The lottery is perfectly structured to create loopholes and schemes for the chance takers to be creative. Cutiing off those loopholes will lose mondo $$$$ for the state.

Minus non resident lottery fees and subsequent license fees would put the patient in critical care.

At this point, I realize what the moose lottery is and each chance buys me a few months of hope, something to look forward to. Think luck, not statistics or you will make yourself crazy. If God wants you to shoot a moose, He only requires you buy one ticket. If the state of Maine wants you to shoot a moose they'll urge you to buy into a statistical argument that 3 more chances/$$$$$ will improve your odds of being
selected. Mathematically true but infintesimal improvement of odds.

MDIFW also has a neat method of 'contact us' on their website. Fill out the tedious form, ask your questions and click 'return'. A note pops up claiming you forget to complete an asterisked field. 'go back' and everything you entered is GONE. Keeps the riff raf away from the understaffed office. Will keep most men from ever asking the state a question.

As I said in the beginning I've had three permits so I really do not have a horse in this race. I do hear a lot of complaints from people who have never won a permit saying it's just a big game for Maine and has lost it's original intent. Who said this State is against gambling??

[GarlicGuy]

my brother got a bull moose permit this year.......