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Old 12-26-2019, 09:32 AM
 
Location: West Los Angeles and Rancho Palos Verdes
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Um ok. Who said anything about “housing ... built for refugees”? Or about Liberians? I mean, it’s a legitimate topic but this thread is about homelessness. Your comments are unrelated to your quote of me as you reference, best I can figure.
For the record: I agree we shouldn’t bring refugees to America. Whenever possible, America should support development and recoveries of people in their native homelands. In my administration ( )we’d have quotas and qualifications-based immigration such as Australia, New Zealand, Canada and lots of other countries.

That said, if you’d like to draw to homeless illegals in LA or America in general and complain they shouldn’t be housed - I agree to some degree. Thing is, as I said before, once people are on the streets in LA /America, the problem shifts from “deserve to be here” to “ARE here and ARE a nuisance and financial/social (at least) burden. Whether you like it or not, they need to be housed out of everyone else’s paths of life.

Doesn’t need to be nice housing. Just not cruelly insufficient or unhealthy to sustain life until other arrangements can be instituted.

My comment was in reference to your comment regarding the creation of sheltering. At the federal level, U.S. taxpayers spend $1.8 Billion a year on housing, clothing. food, etc. for "refugees". Why has not every penny of that been spent on destitute Americans first?
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Old 12-26-2019, 09:37 AM
 
Location: On the water.
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My comment was in reference to your comment regarding the creation of sheltering. At the federal level, U.S. taxpayers spend $1.8 Billion a year on housing, clothing. food, etc. for "refugees". Why has not every penny of that been spent on destitute Americans first?
Ah. Ok. In theory, I agree completely. Write your congressperson
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Old 12-27-2019, 08:48 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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"Executive director of the California Policy Lab Janey Rountree said the researchers used predictive analytics to model hundreds of potential risk factors for homelessness. Chief among them were interactions with the county’s social services agencies.

Half of the people who became homeless for the first time in 2017, and 70% of those who were previously homeless and had lost their housing again in 2017, were already clients with the county. Those at the highest risk were found to have come from areas of high poverty and had been involved with multiple agencies, from mental health services to the jail."

Is there a way to predict who will become homeless? These UCLA researchers say yes:
https://www.latimes.com/california/s...ing-assistance
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Old 12-27-2019, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Sylmar, a part of Los Angeles
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Trump tweeted; Pelosi clean up your filthy district.
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Old 12-27-2019, 11:57 AM
 
Location: On the water.
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Trump tweeted; Pelosi clean up your filthy district.
Earth shaking news.

Have you read any recent tweets from George Conway?
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Old 12-29-2019, 02:03 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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An article that points out how difficult it can be to assist the chronically homeless.

Leneace (Niecy) Pope and Dion Hines and their neighbors were lucky to be fast-tracked into housing last year through a one-time program known as Encampment to Home. Moved from these sidewalks, they settled into an apartment complex off El Segundo Boulevard and the 110 Freeway.

Getting off the streets was relatively easy, a matter of following bureaucratic protocols. The greater challenge, once they were inside, was to abide by management’s rules and regulations.

Niecy and Dion tried to adapt. They had case managers who provided counseling, but there were incidents: threatening behavior, a fight. It was as if the streets had followed them into their homes.

Once again, the streets had won.

Rather than be evicted — a mark on their records — Niecy and Dion relinquished their units. Now they are starting over. Their experience shows that housing alone will not solve this crisis for everyone. Living with rules and regulations in a close community can be overwhelming.


Once housed, two friends find themselves homeless again:
https://www.latimes.com/california/s...ss-los-angeles
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Old 12-29-2019, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Sylmar, a part of Los Angeles
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These people are feral, giving them spick and span brand new housing is stupid as they will promptly destroy it. They don't want to be responsible for anything, that's why they live on the street. Get up and go to work everyday, are you kidding.
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Old 12-29-2019, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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Guys I just watched a video for LAX now becoming a homeless encampment. Does that deserve its own seperate thread?
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Old 12-29-2019, 10:39 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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Guys I just watched a video for LAX now becoming a homeless encampment. Does that deserve its own seperate thread?
No.

This thread was created to contain the entire topic ... which obsessively runs out of control.. post a new one and the mods will move it here.
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Old 12-29-2019, 10:42 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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Good thing I didn't. I just wanted to say how insane the airports now aren't safe anymore. I've never been to LAX and have no reason to use it but I do want to travel and worry about ever having a layover there.

Is this an old problem? I imagine it's only a matter of time before people get sick going through that airport.
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