L.A. Third World Country (San Diego, Burbank: middle-class, neighborhood, school)

[majoun]

Originally Posted by OCCASparky

Nope. NZ can't handle 200 million people. Nice try tho.

There aren't 200 million people in California.

[OCCASparky]

Originally Posted by majoun

There aren't 200 million people in California.

There are that and more in the US. Looked at our urban areas lately? Don't know how they stay without imploding.

[majoun]

Originally Posted by OCCASparky

There are that and more in the US. Looked at our urban areas lately? Don't know how they stay without imploding.

300 million in the USA.
I just brought the question up as an hypothetical, I was not advocating it nor was I advocating against it. But since you acknowledge that these problems are nationwide, I do wonder if the hypothetical I described could take place. I was obviously NOT referring to the US' entire population nor the US' entire "white" population, just a significant amount of it.

[johnstang]

this is my first post here. i was thinking of moving to LA, but after visiting it recently, it reminds me too much of mexico city.

[njdesi]

Wait... is this a conversation about LA or India vs. China? Either way i think India is better though, because of democracy, but I suppose that my appinion would be more in liking of India, being Indian myself...

[majoun]

Originally Posted by njdesi

Wait... is this a conversation about LA or India vs. China? Either way i think India is better though, because of democracy, but I suppose that my appinion would be more in liking of India, being Indian myself...

Well, L.A. has a huge Chinese population and a sizeable South Asian population,so maybe it is on topic....

[Sorcerer68]

Originally Posted by montevista1

I have lived my entire life and I have got to say this is a third world country!

Their is no middle class in L.A. either you are super rich or poor!

Traffic here is close to something you would see in Asia.

Housing here is insane and I dont understand why a house in Van Nuys costs 650K when its not even a nice area!

How do people pay their mortgage are they really making 200K a year?!

I do not understand why in just about any other state in the country 650K gets you a nice house in a good school district.

L.A. sucks and I am hoping I can make 200K+ so I can live here othewise I will need to move to another state!

How many other places have you been?

[SLOnative]

My grandmother's family was from Trois-Rivieres, Quebec and immigrated before the turn of the previous century into Forest Lake, Minnesota. She was born in Minnesota, and as a teenager left with a family headed west and eventually married a railroad engineer in Seattle. I've crossed the border into B.C. about five times, and each time the border inspectors have been pretty thorough. Yet it appears it would be easy to sneak across the Canadian border, somewhat like our California and Arizona borders to the south.

So how do the Canadians keep control of illegal immigration?

A friend living in the North Hollywood/Burbank area of LA wrote me this today:

"As long as we keep supporting people with everything
they need just for having babies, they will keep
coming.

Our mayor asked what he could do about our money
problems, there is an easy answer, go after welfare
fraud.

The welfare department no longer preforms house checks
so couples don't marry so she can qualify for welfare
as a single mother.

When San Diego did a check, they found people living
in Mexico with the baby and the cousin forwarding the
checks.

Ireland changed their policy to one parent needs to be
Irish to produce an Irish citizen baby, I don't know
why we can't do that?"

[scottl333]

What people fail to realize is that poor in the United States is not poor in other countries. I have been to many many 3rd world countries and there poor is a world away from our poor.Our poor is living in public house and having cable t.v., internet and driving a nice car. There poor is living in a shack with no running water and go hungry many days of the week. I work on the South Side of Chicago so I know what Im talking about

[Vicman]

Originally Posted by njdesi

Wait... is this a conversation about LA or India vs. China? Either way i think India is better though, because of democracy, but I suppose that my appinion would be more in liking of India, being Indian myself...

I'm not sure how it would stack in terms of upper classes; in terms of the underclass Rob Gifford said that he would rather be a rural P.R. Chinese peasant than a rural Indian peasant, even though he would want to be neither. Even though India is a democracy he feels that other factors make the lives of Indian poor people worse than those of P.R. Chinese poor people.