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Judge allows 5-cent deposit on bottled water
ALBANY — Nickel deposits will be imposed on bottled water in New York state starting Oct. 31.
U.S. District Judge Deborah Batts on Friday issued an order that lifts an injunction on the deposits. That means all containers of water under 1 gallon will have a 5-cent refundable deposit, as beer and soda containers have had for years.
Laura Haight of the New York Public Interest Research Group said the deposit will result in more recycling and less litter.
The Food Industry Alliance of New York State says it will mean consumers will pay $2 more for a 24-pack of water.
Gov. David Paterson said after Friday's judicial action that 80 percent of unclaimed deposits will go to the state as much-needed revenue.
Bottlers secured the injunction in June so they would have more time to prepare for the new rule.
Good.Less garbage that pig soccer parents will be leaving behind on school fields.Now if only there was a deposit on tissues,coffee cups and used diapers.
Judge allows 5-cent deposit on bottled water
ALBANY — Nickel deposits will be imposed on bottled water in New York state starting Oct. 31.
U.S. District Judge Deborah Batts on Friday issued an order that lifts an injunction on the deposits. That means all containers of water under 1 gallon will have a 5-cent refundable deposit, as beer and soda containers have had for years.
Laura Haight of the New York Public Interest Research Group said the deposit will result in more recycling and less litter.
The Food Industry Alliance of New York State says it will mean consumers will pay $2 more for a 24-pack of water.
Gov. David Paterson said after Friday's judicial action that 80 percent of unclaimed deposits will go to the state as much-needed revenue.
Bottlers secured the injunction in June so they would have more time to prepare for the new rule.
Many of these bottles are circling around in the Pacific Ocean. To anyone who doesn't want to pay a deposit - go in the ocean and fish yours our you entitled doof.
Good.Less garbage that pig soccer parents will be leaving behind on school fields.Now if only there was a deposit on tissues,coffee cups and used diapers.
Just another money grab by the politicians that leaves only the consumer and tax paying citizens as loser.
A very large water company is raising product cost by .04 per unit to cover increased handling charges and associated costs plus the .05 deposit per unit means consumer will see case cost increase of $2.16 per case at a minimum. More realistically it will add .25 per unit for consumer at their local convenience store ($6.00 per case).
A large local beer wholesaler will lose $10,000,000.00 in revenue due to the new tax on unredeemed containers. Think they'll just grin and bear it? Not likely...they will however increase product cost and reduce payroll...just what the economy needs more unemployed and higher prices.
The state will also have a very hard time ever seeing the $115mm figure that they are using as the projected amount to be generated for the state. In typical political fashion they've decided it's a quick way to take $$ without any thought to true impact or execution. Aside from the aforementioned additions to the unemployment lines creating an impact, there is no plan to actually enforce the law.
They of course have a fancy electronic banking system set up so that the state will have instant access to the nickels. What they don't have is any clue of how to prevent cheaper out of state product (where they do not have deposit and handling charges) from flooding into NY. Nor do they have any way to prevent those "foreign" bottles from being redeemed. This will unquestionably reduce the unclaimed container percentage which in turn will reduce the state's take, and that means the state will have to spend money to find a way to enforce their law. If they don't enforce it the wholesalers will end up over-redeemed and the state will have to reimburse them, so either way the state will not see the claimed revenue. If you think folks won't be so creative in trying to beat the system (after all it's just bottles) then please Google "Boro Recycling". I can see it soon..."The NY State Bureau of Container Enforcement - Dept. of Environmental Conservation". Hopefully some of the folks who will be losing their jobs will be able to be employed by this future bureau.
But it's "green" and good for the environment according to the press and the politicians. I say that NY State now has a financial interest in keeping redemption down. The fewer bottles returned the more they take. If the state wanted to be "green" they could just enforce the already existing recycling laws that exist in the vast majority of the state.
At the end of the day it's a lose/lose being masqueraded as something beneficial. You can put a bow tie on a pile of dung, but it's still a pile of dung.
Switch to using a metal container -- like a Sigg bottle.
Use your tap or an in home filtration system to fill the bottle.
No deposit, no plastic, no BS.
Do you seriously think that NYS residents will "head for the border" to buy water in non-deposit bottles?
Not the residents...wholesalers, distributors, diverters and opportunistic people with trucks will bring bulk quantities.
Do you know how many NY C and CO wholesale license holders are out there trying to make a living and would love to find a way to sell a truckload of product? Do you realize that you can ship from contiguous states to just about anywhere in NY for .25-.50 per case? Compare that with the $2.00 plus for deposit and taxes and you think it won't happen? Ever hear of a grocery diverter? They're the real pros at this game.
The system to ship is already in place, the system already does a huge amount of volume. Do you think that laundry detergent, toothpaste, or canned food you bought the other day was intended to be sold in NY State? The answer is that you really have no idea, but there is a good chance it wasn't, and those chances are about to go up.
Very few people have even a basic understanding of food distribution systems and as such are willing to "buy in" to the stories being sold with this money grab by NY State. It's still a pile of dung.
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Who will clean them all up?
