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Old 11-08-2010, 06:33 AM
 
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He had a choice to either reduce spending or increase taxes, instead he chose to borrow. Cooler heads prevailed and he reduced his original request for $364 M to $135 M mostly at the request of his own comptroller.

His initial campaign pledge was to have a solution to the tax certiorari and fix the assessment system, his panel of experts were supposed to have a report back in June. Now he ends up firing his Assessor and still no solution other than to add more tax to school districts and charities, maybe this is his plan.

He's only 10 months into his term but overall he really seems out of his league.
Time will tell. He deserves a chance. These are unusual times that require unusual solutions. We suffered through 8 years of Suozzi mismanagement and those messes can't be cleaned up overnight. Don't forget that Suozzi blamed Gulotta for his problems for his entire first term. What's fair is fair.
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Old 11-08-2010, 02:03 PM
 
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So how many one shot revenue sources are in this budget?

newsday had a small editorial on it today. doesn't seem like really a balanced budget.

where is the comptroller in this?
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Old 11-08-2010, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Pixley
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Time will tell. He deserves a chance. These are unusual times that require unusual solutions. We suffered through 8 years of Suozzi mismanagement and those messes can't be cleaned up overnight. Don't forget that Suozzi blamed Gulotta for his problems for his entire first term. What's fair is fair.
And it was, and still is fair to blame Gulotta...
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Old 11-08-2010, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Time will tell. He deserves a chance. These are unusual times that require unusual solutions. We suffered through 8 years of Suozzi mismanagement and those messes can't be cleaned up overnight. Don't forget that Suozzi blamed Gulotta for his problems for his entire first term. What's fair is fair.
No one said he didn't walk into a bad situationbut he should have some ideas, after all he was on the legislature for all those years. Its as if he is looking at these problems for the first time and some of his solutions have really been out there in left field.

I would have supported him if he asked each resident to cough up $200 in real estate tax becuse it was necessary. Meanwhile all the republicans on the legislature and Mangano sent out press releases (at a cost to the taxpayer) on the cancellation of the energy tax that added to the deficit. How do you take these people seriously.
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Old 11-08-2010, 05:07 PM
 
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And it was, and still is fair to blame Gulotta...

...and Suozzi.
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Old 11-08-2010, 05:11 PM
 
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I don't blame Gulotta or Suozzi.
I blame the idiots who keep voting for idiots.
Jellyfish.
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Old 11-08-2010, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I don't blame Gulotta or Suozzi.
I blame the idiots who keep voting for idiots.
Jellyfish.
Unfortunately those are the choices, other than Greg Peterson or Mangano over the years. I think we have reached a new level with Mangano's casino gambling in Garden City and his "directed" union givebacks.
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Old 11-08-2010, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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...and Suozzi.
The differences between the financial problems now and the financial problems the county faced 10 years ago, is the current financial problems are a direct result of lagging sales tax revenue as a result of the downturn in the economy. The issues back then were pure and utter incompetence that had nothing to do with economic issues or lagging sales tax revenue.

Even if you want to put the blame on Suozzi, following the exact same path Gullotta followed which put us in MUCH more dire situations than our current issues is a recipe for immense disaster.
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Old 11-08-2010, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Massapequa Park
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The differences between the financial problems now and the financial problems the county faced 10 years ago, is the current financial problems are a direct result of lagging sales tax revenue as a result of the downturn in the economy. The issues back then were pure and utter incompetence that had nothing to do with economic issues or lagging sales tax revenue.
Okay, and don't you think the astronomical increase in property taxes and other taxes has something to do with the decreased sales tax revenues?

You double people's taxes over 7 yrs and increase the burden on businesses with new taxes like the famous new MTA bailout tax and this is the end result = Zero disposable income, lower payroll taxes, increased employees health care tax burden, businesses and jobs fleeing the NY area, lower payroll taxes. No one wants to (or can) spend any money and businesses are shrinking themselves.

The solution is obvious here and it's the one that no county executive has tried. Making the Unions and everyone on the gov't teat, bring salaries and OT abuse to reasonable levels. Cutting spending and head count in gov't. Kinda like what Mangano is doing..hmm. It's obvious that Big Gov't grew ahead of itself and the NY taxpayer cannot keep up.
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Old 11-08-2010, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Okay, and don't you think the astronomical increase in property taxes and other taxes has something to do with the decreased sales tax revenues?

You double people's taxes over 7 yrs and increase the burden on businesses with new taxes like the famous new MTA bailout tax and this is the end result = Zero disposable income, lower payroll taxes, increased employees health care tax burden, businesses and jobs fleeing the NY area, lower payroll taxes. No one wants to (or can) spend any money and businesses are shrinking themselves.

The solution is obvious here and it's the one that no county executive has tried. Making the Unions and everyone on the gov't teat, bring salaries and OT abuse to reasonable levels. Cutting spending and head count in gov't. Kinda like what Mangano is doing..hmm. It's obvious that Big Gov't grew ahead of itself and the NY taxpayer cannot keep up.

Perhaps slightly, but keep in mind the sales tax revenue only started to decline when the national economy took the hit. It was fine up until that point.

Also virtually none of those things, have anything to do with what the County Executive is responsible for or anyone in county government has any control over.

We need a several pronged approach to get everything back on track, doing the Gullotta is not the way to get there.
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