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Demographically western Long Island IS pretty much NYC: don't forget Brooklyn and Queens are on Long Island, and even further out like in Masspequa has alot of Italian New Yorkers. I think only in the more rural/villagey parts like the Hamptons do you get the 'waspy/country club' vibe of Connecticut.
Demographically western Long Island IS pretty much NYC: don't forget Brooklyn and Queens are on Long Island, and even further out like in Masspequa has alot of Italian New Yorkers. I think only in the more rural/villagey parts like the Hamptons do you get the 'waspy/country club' vibe of Connecticut.
You hit it on the mark the best. Dan's Paper has written that the eastern Pine Barrens is the imaginary line and state of mind between the English/New England/East End and the Dutch/New York/Upisland.
You hit it on the mark the best. Dan's Paper has written that the eastern Pine Barrens is the imaginary line and state of mind between the English/New England/East End and the Dutch/New York/Upisland.
I just came across this post by accident doing a Google search, but I wanna comment on this.
I would say a lot of the north shore on Long Island and certainly the east end stretching out toward Montauk (probably because back when NYC belonged to the Dutch, the Bonac East Hampton area was part of New England) definitely resembles New England quite a bit. But it is not New England in terms of classification. I guess from what I can see online, New York state as a whole is considered to be a "Mid Atlantic" state (I could never understand this, that just sounds so stupid because it's more north if anything, but whatever) located in the Northeast Census Region (along with the New England division, of course).
No, we are NOT considered to be New England, though, the parts of Long Island that I mentioned, a few nice towns upstate in the Hudson Valley region, and a couple more towns outside of those (but are like more run-down sad bootleg versions of New England) bear resemblance.
As far as I know and what i've heard opinion-wise over the years, these are the New England states-Conn, Mass, RI, VT, NH, Maine. Other people have told me they don't count VT & NH.I do agree about the north fork too. As you get past southold into greenport and east marion, it does have a new england look and feel.
By definition, NY is considered northeast 'AND mid-atlantic by cartographers. When they place new york in surveys and mid atlantic is a choice, it is always grouped with Pennsylvania.
Other people have told me they don't count VT & NH.
Are they off their rocker? Those two states along with Maine scream New England. Especially New Hampshire. If those two states aren't "New England", then there is no such thing as "New England". It's almost like saying that the Ramones aren't a punk rock band or pizza isn't delicious. It just makes no sense.
Are they off their rocker? Those two states along with Maine scream New England. Especially New Hampshire. If those two states aren't "New England", then there is no such thing as "New England". It's almost like saying that the Ramones aren't a punk rock band or pizza isn't delicious. It just makes no sense.
The reason why people sometimes exclude them is because of what they are. Both have many ski areas. Both are pretty much desolate states with a little business but not necessarily the same styles of homes and scenery as a Maine, RI or Mass and obviously not too many rich, snobby areas.
The reason why people sometimes exclude them is because of what they are. Both have many ski areas. Both are pretty much desolate states with a little business but not necessarily the same styles of homes and scenery as a Maine, RI or Mass and obviously not too many rich, snobby areas.
Yeah, I guess the homes look a bit poorer and such. But I just think of all of the the other stuff. The way those two states light up in the month of October with the fall foliage, and the white steeple church like towns in Vermont, and towns in New Hampshire like "Meredith", and the tiny house covered bridges...
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