[moguldreamer]

I'm no longer a landlord. If I were, as part of the advertising for my rentals I would probably have a statement telling the unemployed not to bother to apply. I would also charge a $100 application fee, and of course tenants have to pay for credit & criminal background checks.

A friend who is a landlord says nearly a decade ago he had an applicant who said up front, "I'm just coming out of a messy divorce and bankruptcy so my credit is shot. HOWEVER, I have a high paying stable job in pharmaceutical sales, and I'm willing to pay 6 months up front." He took a chance on her and it worked out well.

[ChrisMT]

Originally Posted by moguldreamer

I'm no longer a landlord. If I were, as part of the advertising for my rentals I would probably have a statement telling the unemployed not to bother to apply. I would also charge a $100 application fee, and of course tenants have to pay for credit & criminal background checks.

A friend who is a landlord says nearly a decade ago he had an applicant who said up front, "I'm just coming out of a messy divorce and bankruptcy so my credit is shot. HOWEVER, I have a high paying stable job in pharmaceutical sales, and I'm willing to pay 6 months up front." He took a chance on her and it worked out well.

Same here.

I do use a professional property manager to find a tenant and get an ironclad lease agreement.

My current tenant of over 7 years had bad credit from an abusive relationship issue, but she had a good job (it was in sales and not a guaranteed monthly income though) and placed a large amount of money into a joint account with her dad to oversee the rental payments for a year. She also didn't disclose an old dog...ha ha! Anyway, she is still living there and has been a nice, clean and polite tenant.

Previous tenant was similar, she had bad credit for abandoning a rental in LV she signed with an abusive ex. I took her with some contingencies built into the lease and she worked out fine.

I do use a real estate professional to provide a lease and find suitable tenants that I have the final approval on. Many realtors will do this for a set percent of the first month rent.

Ma and Pa landlords are a lifesaver to many people who don't have the perfect background because we listen to the situation and make adjustments for it if we think we can work with someone. Both of these tenants had been turned down by professional property managers for the bad credit and spotty income issues.

[Willy702]

How many people had a job awaiting them in Las Vegas? Myself and most people I know who moved took a chance on making it work, its always been like that. We may have some leads or ideas but not exactly that common to move to any place with a lot of incoming transplants to come looking for a job. Probably a little more common now with online applications and the shortage of workers but I think to assume someone would be crazy to move without a job just kind of goes against the spirit the city has always had. Not to mention if you aren't local already you face a lot of scrutiny and doubt to get a job. Used to be if you were interviewing against a local you just rarely got the offer.

[nuggznsauce]

Originally Posted by Willy702

How many people had a job awaiting them in Las Vegas? Myself and most people I know who moved took a chance on making it work, its always been like that. We may have some leads or ideas but not exactly that common to move to any place with a lot of incoming transplants to come looking for a job. Probably a little more common now with online applications and the shortage of workers but I think to assume someone would be crazy to move without a job just kind of goes against the spirit the city has always had. Not to mention if you aren't local already you face a lot of scrutiny and doubt to get a job. Used to be if you were interviewing against a local you just rarely got the offer.

Landlords aren't living in the world of casinos and card games. Housing comes with costs and expenses that a landlord is responsible for if the tenant fails to uphold their responsibilities. Evictions for non-payment costs money. Cleaning up after pasts tenants cost money.

For every person that moves to Vegas thinking they'll hit it big you have two that leave having lost everything. If anything it's all the more reason we need better landlords to screen people in Vegas. We need less flakes that come wanting to play extended vacation and end up leaving when things get rough. I'm sorry but if your working experience is entry level in a mediocre service job you have no business moving to Vegas. Smart People move for work when they have an actual job that can allow them a better opportunity.

Getting a short term rental until you get established isn't hard or any more expensive here versus applying to a dozen rentals. And someone truly planning on moving jobs shouldn't have a problem if they have a desirable career and Vegas is always in demand for well paid employees (police officers, teachers, and medical staff are in extreme demand and have a lot of negotiating power here). But just because you did a great job at McDonald's or Walmart in Topeka doesn't mean you deserve or can afford a place anywhere you choose.

[RW2FL]

I bet a majority of people move to new cities without having a job lined up. If you're from out of town and apply for a job, most employers won't even look at your application until you relocated. Unless you're in a field with labor shortages - medical careers, upper level management jobs, or high tech positions, no HR department is going to get excited about your resume unless you're in town.

[Willy702]

Originally Posted by nuggznsauce

Landlords aren't living in the world of casinos and card games. Housing comes with costs and expenses that a landlord is responsible for if the tenant fails to uphold their responsibilities. Evictions for non-payment costs money. Cleaning up after pasts tenants cost money.

For every person that moves to Vegas thinking they'll hit it big you have two that leave having lost everything. If anything it's all the more reason we need better landlords to screen people in Vegas. We need less flakes that come wanting to play extended vacation and end up leaving when things get rough. I'm sorry but if your working experience is entry level in a mediocre service job you have no business moving to Vegas. Smart People move for work when they have an actual job that can allow them a better opportunity.

Getting a short term rental until you get established isn't hard or any more expensive here versus applying to a dozen rentals. And someone truly planning on moving jobs shouldn't have a problem if they have a desirable career and Vegas is always in demand for well paid employees (police officers, teachers, and medical staff are in extreme demand and have a lot of negotiating power here). But just because you did a great job at McDonald's or Walmart in Topeka doesn't mean you deserve or can afford a place anywhere you choose.

Wow, reading a lot into my post eh?

[apple92680]

Originally Posted by nuggznsauce

Landlords aren't living in the world of casinos and card games. Housing comes with costs and expenses that a landlord is responsible for if the tenant fails to uphold their responsibilities. Evictions for non-payment costs money. Cleaning up after pasts tenants cost money.

For every person that moves to Vegas thinking they'll hit it big you have two that leave having lost everything. If anything it's all the more reason we need better landlords to screen people in Vegas. We need less flakes that come wanting to play extended vacation and end up leaving when things get rough. I'm sorry but if your working experience is entry level in a mediocre service job you have no business moving to Vegas. Smart People move for work when they have an actual job that can allow them a better opportunity.

You must be a relatively new transplant to Las Vegas yourself? If you were a longtime local, or native, you'd know that Las Vegas is actually the one place in the United States where someone working a mediocre service job could come and find a better paying service job and, perhaps, even move into middle management eventually.

Las Vegas isn't Seattle, San Francisco or Boston. It isn't even Reno... it's much more egalitarian than any of those places!

Originally Posted by nuggznsauce

Getting a short term rental until you get established isn't hard or any more expensive here versus applying to a dozen rentals. And someone truly planning on moving jobs shouldn't have a problem if they have a desirable career and Vegas is always in demand for well paid employees (police officers, teachers, and medical staff are in extreme demand and have a lot of negotiating power here). But just because you did a great job at McDonald's or Walmart in Topeka doesn't mean you deserve or can afford a place anywhere you choose.

The elitism in your comments is strange...

[Scott456]

Isn't this true for any cities?
"How can anyone be dumb enough to move to a place especially to XXXX without having a job first at hand"

[NDak15]

Originally Posted by romeopizza

After five years in Vegas, I left for Virginia for a new opportunity. However, I am renting out my condo near the Strip to get extra income before I list it.
Lots of the replies from potential applications when I asked about their work and income were people who said along the lines of "I am in between jobs" or "well I am waiting for my job" or "I am interviewing at the casinos but I will get my job end of the month" or "i am waiting for an offer". Like seriously?
The worst were some couples where neither spouse worked.
ALL of them had awful credit scores.
Luckily I found someone that works for the city and he has stable source of income, and nothing shady came up.
I always thought it was a joke that people move to Vegas without having a job at hand, but it is a scary reality.
Unless it is a couple with one spouse making legit money or it is a smokin hot babe, I can't see anyone moving to new place like Vegas without having a job.

I don't know why people move anywhere with no job.

[blameyourself]

Originally Posted by NDak15

I don't know why people move anywhere with no job.

Really?

So you don't think people retire and move to lower cost of living areas? What about people that have the resources to do it where money isn't an object? Yeah, if you're living paycheck to paycheck it wouldn't be a smart thing to do, but that's not everyone's case. This isn't that hard to understand.