[lvmensch]

Originally Posted by ddrhazy

Not that it matters now that Bernie Sanders has dropped out, but his plans were expensive. How do you rectify that fact with also wanting more austerity towards the deficit? Isn't the entire argument against socialism is that it encourages over spending on social programs that eventually collapse the value of the country's currency?

And on the other hand the standard stereotype says the right wing is fiscally conservative. From where Obama left things at this point we should be paying down the national debt. So what happened? The right has decided to outdo the left but with the rich as beneficiaries rather than the middle class?

[Katie the heartbreaker]

Originally Posted by ddrhazy

Not that it matters now that Bernie Sanders has dropped out, but his plans were expensive. How do you rectify that fact with also wanting more austerity towards the deficit? Isn't the entire argument against socialism is that it encourages over spending on social programs that eventually collapse the value of the country's currency?

This country has been heading in the wrong path for decades. In order for Bernie Sander's programs to work, we would have to completely change the entire country. We could no longer be the world's policeman as the entire military would have be majorly scaled back. We would also have to bring back manufacturing like we had previous to the 1990's. Those are just 2 off the top of my head.



That being said, we now have a socialist president by the name of Donald Trump who has decided to both cut taxes and increase spending which can only end in disaster. I am going to get $3,000 a month now for not working when I only made $1,000 a month working, and I will be getting an additional $1,200 on top of that. No one can deny that is socialism.

[eventusstultorummagister]

Originally Posted by lvmensch

And on the other hand the standard stereotype says the right wing is fiscally conservative. From where Obama left things at this point we should be paying down the national debt. So what happened? The right has decided to outdo the left but with the rich as beneficiaries rather than the middle class?

Right, left, up, down... it matters little. One day it will all lead to nationalization. We will also see the side effects of a technocracy consisting of a mixture of communism and fascism. This so-called pandemic is just the first strike, the second phase will follow very soon, cash abolition and a digital currency.

If all goes well (without civil war) we will have inflation and depression (stagflation). Remember 1980, when Federal Reserve Chair Paul Volcker raised the interest rate to 20%?

ESM

[equid0x]

Originally Posted by Katie the heartbreaker

This country has been heading in the wrong path for decades. In order for Bernie Sander's programs to work, we would have to completely change the entire country. We could no longer be the world's policeman as the entire military would have be majorly scaled back. We would also have to bring back manufacturing like we had previous to the 1990's. Those are just 2 off the top of my head.



That being said, we now have a socialist president by the name of Donald Trump who has decided to both cut taxes and increase spending which can only end in disaster. I am going to get $3,000 a month now for not working when I only made $1,000 a month working, and I will be getting an additional $1,200 on top of that. No one can deny that is socialism.

It may come as a shock to many on this board but even *I* will not deny that this is socialism.