[Camaro5]

I like desert landscaping in the front of the house. Coming for the Midwest, it looks different. My wife can't wait to put Christmas lights on a palm tree. Need to have a lawn in the backyard, though.

[Merrily Gather]

Originally Posted by robojester

Sounds like you would get along great with my friend Martha who custom paints cars etc.

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Wow! Very cool!

[SportyandMisty]

Originally Posted by BBMW

If they don't get the millenials to gamble, why do the millenials need Vegas at all. You can build hotels with dance clubs, bars, restaurants and shopping anywhere. Plant them in Cali, just beyond the edge of the LA metro area, and chop 2-3 hours off the drive from LA.

I suspect that would be pretty speculative. About $20 Billion speculative.

[BBMW]

What, to recreate the entire Strip. Not necessary, especially to start. Take someplace like Palm Springs. Build a couple of trendy resorts with big dance clubs and some nice celebrity chef restaurants. What would these be, maybe a few hundred million a piece. And design it strip like, all of them in proximity and walkable to each other.

Build a good internet/social media PR organization to pump it in general (the individual resorts would do their own advertising/PR also.) I bet they could skim off a half to a third of the millennial club business that goes from LA to Vegas. If that happened, they could go after a national audience.

Originally Posted by SportyandMisty

I suspect that would be pretty speculative. About $20 Billion speculative.

[logline]

Originally Posted by OmegaSupreme

Some of my friends work as hosts, what's your source?

My own eyes. Even on busy nights, you'll see a bunch of people standing or dancing and a sea of empty booths.

[Merrily Gather]

Victorville here we come! lol

[BBMW]

No. But maybe Palm Springs, which has already been a playground for Angelinos for decades, and is a third the drive to LV.

Originally Posted by Merry Lee Gather

Victorville here we come! lol

[OmegaSupreme]

You can't just duplicate a city and expect it's reputation to be transferred overnight, or at any point for that matter

Las Vegas will always have that unique appeal, doesn't matter if it's seemingly available elsewhere, people want to come here

Hotel rooms are cheap enough, who cares if some of the tight-wad locals have to pay for parking, do you think that's where the money comes from?

Palm Springs is a cute little town, but I wouldn't want to go out there again. Don't understand the point of it when there are no beaches.

[ElleTea]

Originally Posted by OmegaSupreme

Hotel rooms are cheap enough, who cares if some of the tight-wad locals have to pay for parking, do you think that's where the money comes from?

No, a lot of the money comes from California and Arizona where the tourists drive to town and need to park.

[SportyandMisty]

Originally Posted by BBMW

What, to recreate the entire Strip. Not necessary, especially to start. Take someplace like Palm Springs. Build a couple of trendy resorts with big dance clubs and some nice celebrity chef restaurants. What would these be, maybe a few hundred million a piece.

I think you're underestimating the cost. I'd say about $1 Billion each. Don't forget public transportation infrastructure that would cost many, many billions. Don't forget the environmental lobby that would be up in arms. Access to water for the resorts is a potential non-starter.

Oh -- I imagine the actual residents of the Coachella Valley might have a negative view of turning their community into another Vegas.

Originally Posted by BBMW

Build a good internet/social media PR organization to pump it in general (the individual resorts would do their own advertising/PR also.) I bet they could skim off a half to a third of the millennial club business that goes from LA to Vegas. If that happened, they could go after a national audience.

Few places in the USA have the physical infrastructure to support a large convention or business meeting, and Las Vegas is at the top. When a Fortune 500 company brings its worldwide sales force together for its annual sales meeting, it needs many thousand hotel rooms -- possibly tens of thousands. It needs tons of breakout conference rooms. It needs main ballrooms that can seat thousands. It needs a high capacity international airport. It needs access to banquet preparation facilities and staff. The list goes on and on, and that is the basis of Las Vegas' comparative advantage.

Because Las Vegas has this kind of infrastructure in place for business travelers and conventioneers, the fixed assets are leveraged to the millennial vacationers and weekenders.

The economics are pretty brutal.