[ddrhazy]

We're going to have close to 3 million people in Clark county by 2050 so by 2040 we'll have built out most of the valley to the edge of the remaining mountains. I don't think the BLM will allow any development outside that. The water problem will force Nevada to allot less to California. Whether we have enough growth potential after 2050 depends on the water though.

And if you're wondering which areas I'm talking about, this is my guess.

[eqttrdr]

3rd world country just like LA

[bayview6]

My guess that Lv will keep on growing until it runs out of water which will be sooner than most real estate agents think possible.

[Raiderman]

Originally Posted by bayview6

My guess that Lv will keep on growing until it runs out of water which will be sooner than most real estate agents think possible.

Seriously? You still don't get that we're the LAST to have the spigot turned off? And that's only after years of ZERO snowfall? Yes, actually, you may be right somewhere around the year 4025.

[tijlover]

Any big alteration of the skyline downtown rests with, pray-fully, a Millenial Mayor some day. A Mayor can be a big instrument for change. And I'll celebrate for weeks, once we see the last of the Goodman's, but there is a son who could continue the Goodman regime!

For this city to change a big long stickpin is needed, perhaps even a cat-o-nine-tails!

And one long stickpin finally arrived, conventioneers threatening to take their business to one of our strongest rivals, Orlando, unless we make it easier, faster to get to our convention centers. Orlando is planning, building?, a Maglev train from the airport to their convention center, and finally, they're discussing a multi-billion dollar subway system, and expansion of the Monorail. All should have been built 25 years ago, but, as usual, they await the stickpin!

The Millennials are flocking to the cities with the best mass transit, lots of downtown housing options, and we certainly fail the test there, on both counts!

The stickpin has been inserted, a number of times, but perhaps the stickpin hasn't been stuck in far enough!

To even play catchup with some of these favored Millennial destinations, we should have a half-dozen cranes in the downtown area putting up more housing!

Being Las Vegas has never been, never will be, a trend-setting city, what Las Vegas will be like in 25 years hinges on the stickpins driven deep enough!

[BBMW]

Originally Posted by tijlover

Any big alteration of the skyline downtown rests with, pray-fully, a Millenial Mayor some day. A Mayor can be a big instrument for change. And I'll celebrate for weeks, once we see the last of the Goodman's, but there is a son who could continue the Goodman regime!

Actually, no. The mayor of the City of Las Vegas is not really a major player in economic development. The bigger players are the county commission and the governor/state legislature. If you look at where the major economic drivers in Clark County are (the airport, the strip, most of what other industrial property exists, etc.), they're outside of the City of Las Vegas.

For this city to change a big long stickpin is needed, perhaps even a cat-o-nine-tails!

And one long stickpin finally arrived, conventioneers threatening to take their business to one of our strongest rivals, Orlando, unless we make it easier, faster to get to our convention centers. Orlando is planning, building?, a Maglev train from the airport to their convention center, and finally, they're discussing a multi-billion dollar subway system, and expansion of the Monorail. All should have been built 25 years ago, but, as usual, they await the stickpin!

I don't really buy this. Vegas became the biggest tourist/convention destination in the world without mass transit. I don't see anyone deciding where to go by looking at the destination's mass transit system. This is especially true of conventioneers, who are usually on expense accounts, and can get their cab rides paid for.

Given the billions it would cost, and the huge disruptions it would cause, it likely isn't worth it. While it was badly designed from the outset, look at the boondoggle the monorail turned out to be.

The Millennials are flocking to the cities with the best mass transit, lots of downtown housing options, and we certainly fail the test there, on both counts!

The millennials will go wherever the jobs are. Vegas does have issue in this regard, but personal transportation isn't one of them.

[BBMW]

Las Vegas could be a huge cargo transportation hub. But it will take a couple of big project (that are already on the radar.) Build the I-11 project, all the way from Phoenix through Vegas to Reno (to connect to I-80.) Build the cargo/expansion airport at Ivanpah. Vegas already has a major transcontinental rail line going through it. All it lacks is a seaport.

Also, if solar (and electrical storage) gets cheap enough, Vegas could be a huge data center hub. These places chase cheap electricity, and if solar can provide it, that will bring a lot of that business.

Originally Posted by ScoopLV

I don't see how it's possible. Las Vegas will never attract another major industry. Las Vegas is a one-trick pony of a town, and that's all it's ever going to be. We're not going to have a financial district. We won't do any major importing or exporting. We're certainly not going to ever see a fishing industry spring up. We might snag some porn production companies as California legislates theirs out of existence. But we're not going to have a film and television industry. And we're not a major manufacturing center.

We're going to continue to be the place where people come to throw money away. We're always going to be the first to be effected by recession, and the last to recover.

What will Las Vegas be in 25 years? The same thing we are now, with different buildings and different players. But the city isn't going to significantly change.

[ScoopLV]

1) Our single freight line isn't "major."

2) We don't make anything of consequence. (Shelby vehicles are cool. But it's not a big market.) We have nothing to import other than tourists and nothing to export other than hangovers.

3) Building a cargo airport is a dumb idea. See 2).


Solar is a no-brainer for Southern Nevada. And that's exactly why it isn't going to happen anytime soon.

[tijlover]

Originally Posted by BBMW

Actually, no. The mayor of the City of Las Vegas is not really a major player in economic development. The bigger players are the county commission and the governor/state legislature. If you look at where the major economic drivers in Clark County are (the airport, the strip, most of what other industrial property exists, etc.), they're outside of the City of Las Vegas.

I don't really buy this. Vegas became the biggest tourist/convention destination in the world without mass transit. I don't see anyone deciding where to go by looking at the destination's mass transit system. This is especially true of conventioneers, who are usually on expense accounts, and can get their cab rides paid for.

Tina Quigley, Executive Director of RTC, seems to think otherwise, as there's been 2 high-level meetings the last month, formulating a plan to bring mass transit to Las Vegas, her excuse, perhaps fabricated, that we may lose conventioneers to Orlando if we don't do something to speed up transit to/and between the convention centers.

Among the plans, is steering the Monorail over to Mandalay Bay.

She claims it'll be 10 years before anything is completed, and the big test will come when it comes before the voters, to increase taxes to pay for it!

That which impeded the Monorail's success was the Taxi Union's opposition to it going from the MGM to the Airport, and such a short distance!

[BBMW]

You want manufacturing in Vegas? Making it a major transportation hub would go a long way.

And you're saying the Union Pacific isn't a major freight line. You have no idea what your talking about. It's one of the major routes out of the port of LA.

Originally Posted by ScoopLV

1) Our single freight line isn't "major."

2) We don't make anything of consequence. (Shelby vehicles are cool. But it's not a big market.) We have nothing to import other than tourists and nothing to export other than hangovers.

3) Building a cargo airport is a dumb idea. See 2).


Solar is a no-brainer for Southern Nevada. And that's exactly why it isn't going to happen anytime soon.