07-22-2011, 07:07 AM
Location: Vegas, baby, Vegas!
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Now that would be a PERFECT car for my,
I have a GREAT CAR, but in NY, i don't NEED a second car, except for this limited use need
so spending $$$ on a real car is a waste of money, and I might just as well rent a car and be
done with it.
maybe someone knows a place that rents cars out cheaper in town?
Jonathan
07-22-2011, 10:10 AM
Location: Las Vegas
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Jonathan,
I'm pretty much in the exact same situation. We will be moving permanently in 1 - 2 years, but visit several times a year in the interim and rent cars. I crunched the numbers and concluded that it just isn't worth buying one. Not only do you have to factor in the insurance, registration and initial cost of buying the car. There will be repairs and general maintenance. Also, we have to fiqure the cost of getting a ride to our house from the airport and return. Hate to impose on friends, so figure another hundred or so for a taxi, unless you want to wait around for a couple of city buses.
You are right about the five hundy per rental on average. I usually reserve through thrifty well in advance of the rental. Then I check back once or twice a week right up to the rental date. Generally, if the price drops by $15 bucks or so for the rental, I rebook as it only takes a few minutes. Thrifty bluechip gives you a free day with every 14 days, so that helps a little.
It's too bad some of us with this same issue couldn't get together and buy some kind of shared vehicle. Probably run into too many legal and scheduling problems. Oh well, at least you can revel in the warm glow of knowing you are contributing greatly to the city tax base when you review your rental car receipt.
Good Luck,
Croce
07-22-2011, 10:55 AM
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airics
$1000 buys absolute GARBAGE here... $1000 buys plain old garbage in Ohio.... You need about $5k to play and even then you are buying high mileage.... Of course you can always get the 15yr old p.o.s for around 1500. but you'll be fixing it.
I think we just have different views on garbage.
I currently drive a 2001 Oldsmobile Alero. On Craigslist through a private owner it goes for about $1,500. My car runs fine. Doesn't break down, doesn't require a lot of maintenance. It is no luxury vehicle, but then again I have no car payments. I will gladly drive "garbage" to avoid car payments in these economic times.
My friend recently bought a used Honda off Craigslist for $1,200. I think it is a 1993. He had to put new brakes on it. Other than that it runs like a top.
And Tennessee private owner used car sales on Craigslist are usually higher than in Las Vegas for reasons I cannot figure out.
Yes, you can get a beater car for $1,000 to $1500 and it runs. I guess your idea of acceptability and mine are just different.
07-22-2011, 10:55 AM
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I'll be in the same situation at some point. I have a car I want to store there, but with higher insurance, paying registration, smog checks etc. Like others have said, you just have to sit down and crunch the numbers and see which way comes out better.
07-22-2011, 11:00 AM
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Over 10k, you can steal one.... I bought a 2004 Vette today for 15k... Books out in the low 20s...
Ahhhh now here is the rub. You live on a different financial planet than I do. I think you got a great deal! But I do not have $15,000 to toss down on a car at the drop of a hat. We just disagree on acceptability. Both of our cars get us where we want to go. Presumably, they both have air conditioning, good tires, undamaged bodies and decent interiors. Your vehicles will obviously have more bells and whistles, but you also pay a LOT more than I do. Different strokes and different wallets and all that.
07-22-2011, 11:12 AM
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8 more trips before you move at $500 per trip is 4k.
so, if you're going to be spending 4k just to have the car; i suppose the question is whether to spend that money upfront on buying a used car (or a 3-5 yr lease on a new car; which is a bit more complicated since you'd then be stuck with it for the term of the lease, and be hit financially if you wanted to get rid of it early) versus repeated rentals.
07-22-2011, 11:24 AM
Location: Here and there, you decide.
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I think we just have different views on garbage.
I currently drive a 2001 Oldsmobile Alero. On Craigslist through a private owner it goes for about $1,500. My car runs fine. Doesn't break down, doesn't require a lot of maintenance. It is no luxury vehicle, but then again I have no car payments. I will gladly drive "garbage" to avoid car payments in these economic times.
My friend recently bought a used Honda off Craigslist for $1,200. I think it is a 1993. He had to put new brakes on it. Other than that it runs like a top.
And Tennessee private owner used car sales on Craigslist are usually higher than in Las Vegas for reasons I cannot figure out.
Yes, you can get a beater car for $1,000 to $1500 and it runs. I guess your idea of acceptability and mine are just different.
in Ohio, your Alero sells for less than a grand..... And they are notorious for problems... Headgaskets especially. In Vegas, your vehicle is 2000-2500. You don't know the values of Vegas. Cars from the east are ALOT cheaper.
07-22-2011, 11:26 AM
Location: Here and there, you decide.
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Ahhhh now here is the rub. You live on a different financial planet than I do. I think you got a great deal! But I do not have $15,000 to toss down on a car at the drop of a hat. We just disagree on acceptability. Both of our cars get us where we want to go. Presumably, they both have air conditioning, good tires, undamaged bodies and decent interiors. Your vehicles will obviously have more bells and whistles, but you also pay a LOT more than I do. Different strokes and different wallets and all that.
I've been in the business for more than 18yrs... I sell the cheaper units... For myself, I buy what I want and can steal. My worst deal here was a 2008 Pt Cruiser Convertible with 60k... Books at 8500. I paid 7500. If i can get 7000, i'd be happy.
07-22-2011, 11:27 AM
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8 more trips before you move at $500 per trip is 4k.
so, if you're going to be spending 4k just to have the car; i suppose the question is whether to spend that money upfront on buying a used car (or a 3-5 yr lease on a new car; which is a bit more complicated since you'd then be stuck with it for the term of the lease, and be hit financially if you wanted to get rid of it early) versus repeated rentals.
problem also is registration, insurance, and maintenance. Not to mention the cost of getting from the airport to the car and back
07-22-2011, 11:43 AM
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more like $20 a day, then almost $200 in taxes and fees
so no matter how we slice it, its back to $500 per rental..
I figure spending $2000-3000 for a car is in line.
Jonathan
$20/day seems high for the base price unless you are renting larger and/or higher end cars. I'm in LV up to 6-8 times/yr, usually 10-14 days per time, and have always rented. My base price is usually more like $12-14/day, which translates to a little over $20/day after taxes & fess are added, but granted I always book small cars. Two weeks usually runs me around $300-325 total with taxes & fees included. Perhaps you need a bigger vehicle than I do if you have more passengers or cargo (my use is just me and carry-on baggage). If not, $200 extra on the rental price plus the cost of the extra gas it will burn over a smaller one is lot to pay just for the sake of a bigger vehicle. I'm fairly tall and still have plenty of room in the smaller cars with the seat all the way back, but yes I would pity anyone having to sit behind me.
There are several things you can do to help hold costs down.
1. Shop companies. I've found that sometimes the cheapest one I used last time is later among the higher priced ones.
2. Book early, and watch the rates of all companies after booking. If they drop, cancel the first booking and rebook. Some of the travel sites can watch prices for you and email you alerts of changes.
3. Don't allow them to add on the rip off extras they always try to add.
4. Sign up for the free "frequent flyer" type accounts that most of the rental companies have. Usually the rates are a little cheaper if you have one and they'll email you discount codes from time to time.
5. Search the web for discount codes before booking.
6. Consider using sites that allow bidding like Priceline. Hotwire has some similar booking options where you get cheaper rates but they don't divulge the company until after you book.
7. Not guaranteed to work everywhere, but I know a lot of people that book a small car, then slip the attendant a Jackson for an upgrade when picking up the car. The attendant simply treats the paperwork as if they were out of the smaller car you requested, entitling you to next category up (I actually avoid this, as I prefer the the gas economy and better maneuverability of a smaller car when by myself and only using the car for short local driving).
You could probably save a few bucks by buying and then reselling a car, but probably not enough to be worth the time/hassle to shop for it, get it insured, tagged, and market it for sale when done. This has been the conclusion I've come to up to this point in time.
I'll likely buy a car for LV within the next few months or year though as I intend to start spending more time in LV than in the past and also have my wife accompanying me much of the time.
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People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)