Huge KCMO/KCK Blunder (Kansas City, St. Louis: school, living, restaurants)

[Floorist]

Originally Posted by kcmo

Because KCK itself it a suburb. Do you honestly think Olathe, Overland Park, Prairie Village, Leawood etc are suburbs of KCK? The only towns you might call suburbs of KCK are Bonner Springs and Edwardsville, but that would be like calling Blue Springs a suburb of Independence.

Nevertheless, they are in Kansas, so they should be in the Kansas forum.

[jfre81]

KC metro isn't big enough to need two subforums, just because a state line runs through it.

It's a little like Cincinnati. Their city subforum will discuss things in the parts of the metro area that are in Kentucky.

[kcmo]

Originally Posted by jfre81

KC metro isn't big enough to need two subforums, just because a state line runs through it.

It's a little like Cincinnati. Their city subforum will discuss things in the parts of the metro area that are in Kentucky.

I don't think it's as much about size. The KS side of KC is much larger than Wichita, which has its own sub forum.

I think it's just because it's one metropolitan area. Generally if you are having a discussion about Overland Park or Lee's Summit, you are having a discussion about topics related to Kansas City in general, not just those specific suburbs.

The kc metro forum has to be placed somewhere, and since it's based on the Missouri side, that's where the KC sub forum is located. Just like Northern Kentucky suburbs are discussed in the Ohio forum.

[Floorist]

Originally Posted by kcmo

I don't think it's as much about size. The KS side of KC is much larger than Wichita, which has its own sub forum.

I think it's just because it's one metropolitan area. Generally if you are having a discussion about Overland Park or Lee's Summit, you are having a discussion about topics related to Kansas City in general, not just those specific suburbs.

The kc metro forum has to be placed somewhere, and since it's based on the Missouri side, that's where the KC sub forum is located. Just like Northern Kentucky suburbs are discussed in the Ohio forum.

No wonder people not from the area get confused.

[DabOnEm]

Originally Posted by Truly Missouri

Don't know if this video has ever been posted or not but it explains a little bit about the KCK/KCMO issue:

How did Kansas City, Missouri, get its name? | The Kansas City Star

This Kansas history teacher even admits that KCK was founded for reasons of,





You could argue that the whole territory of Kansas was formed as an attempt to piggyback on the success of that great city of Missouri. Back then, and still today KCK/JOCO piggyback.

And as for that one article that said KCMO is the legitimate outgrowth of Kansas, it actually is the other way around. KCMO was first and thrived first, its outgrowth to the west was solely because of piggybacking reasons.

All the regional in-fighting you hear about that comes from the Kansas City area makes much more sense now. History really does repeat itself.

[rwiksell]

Originally Posted by jfre81

KC metro isn't big enough to need two subforums, just because a state line runs through it.

It's a little like Cincinnati. Their city subforum will discuss things in the parts of the metro area that are in Kentucky.

This is why they should rearrange the forum, so that metro forums can stand on their own, without having to be subforums under a state category. The state categories can still be there as catch-alls, but don't need that parent-child relationship with metro forums.

That would at least solve all the questions about why the WyCo and JoCo stuff is in the Missouri forum. (Which I'm sure comes up with other metros like Cincinnati, Portland or St. Louis, if less often.)

[Floorist]

Originally Posted by rwiksell

This is why they should rearrange the forum, so that metro forums can stand on their own, without having to be subforums under a state category. The state categories can still be there as catch-alls, but don't need that parent-child relationship with metro forums.

That would at least solve all the questions about why the WyCo and JoCo stuff is in the Missouri forum. (Which I'm sure comes up with other metros like Cincinnati, Portland or St. Louis, if less often.)

The real answer is that the Kansas cities belong in the Kansas forum. Most of the people who live in the burbs on either side will not say they live in KC. Each little city has its own identity. I lived in Indep and Buckner for 20 years, I never felt like I was part of KC.

[rwiksell]

Originally Posted by Floorist

The real answer is that the Kansas cities belong in the Kansas forum. Most of the people who live in the burbs on either side will not say they live in KC. Each little city has its own identity. I lived in Indep and Buckner for 20 years, I never felt like I was part of KC.

I'm curious where you're getting this idea from. I have a strong feeling almost all Independence residents thoroughly identify with the KC metro. Likewise, everyone in the 5-county region, on both sides of the state line, almost certainly say they're from "Kansas City" or "The Kansas City area" or at least "near Kansas City" when traveling. And they're not referring to KCK.

Again, I did say "strong feeling" so I could be wrong. But I'd like to hear your side of this.

[Floorist]

Originally Posted by rwiksell

I'm curious where you're getting this idea from. I have a strong feeling almost all Independence residents thoroughly identify with the KC metro. Likewise, everyone in the 5-county region, on both sides of the state line, almost certainly say they're from "Kansas City" or "The Kansas City area" or at least "near Kansas City" when traveling. And they're not referring to KCK.

Again, I did say "strong feeling" so I could be wrong. But I'd like to hear your side of this.

I lived in Indep and Buckner for 20 years. If you were to ask someone where they lived, it was always, Blue Springs, Lees Summit, Overland Park, Olathe, etc. No one says they live in KC, unless they live in KC. And I worked all over the metro, from Kearney to Belton, from Buckner to KCK.

[MarketStEl]

Originally Posted by Floorist

I lived in Indep and Buckner for 20 years. If you were to ask someone where they lived, it was always, Blue Springs, Lees Summit, Overland Park, Olathe, etc. No one says they live in KC, unless they live in KC. And I worked all over the metro, from Kearney to Belton, from Buckner to KCK.

But would they say that if they were, say, visiting Philadelphia?

I ran into a woman who now lives in Vermont on Walnut Street here one day. I wouldn't have learned that about her had she not seen me wearing an "I (heart) KC" T-shirt and called out to me.

She had on a Worlds of Fun T-shirt. We got to talking Old Home Week stuff, and when we got to the part about what schools she went to, she said, "Shawnee Mission South."

Conversely, someone who would say they live "on the Main Line" or "in Abington" or "in Cherry Hill" or "in Delaware County" or (...) while within striking distance of Philadelphia City Hall would probably tell you they were from Philadelphia if you were to run into them on the Country Club Plaza.

That's where you see the metropolitan affinity surface - once you've left the metro.