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Old 01-06-2017, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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So I crunched some numbers on this and they are actually quite surprising. At the current growth rates, the Northland will pass KCMO Jackson County population sometime in the late 2020's, so maybe a bit more than ten years? That's pretty crazy. And before you think that the northland's growth rates are not sustainable, bear in mind that the Northland is actually growing faster every year. Over the next ten years, the Twin Creeks area of the Northland will be in full development mode which would actually double the current growth rate of the Northland, but I used the past ten years growth rates which are conservative.

Not only will the Northland pass Jackson County's KCMO population relatively soon, it could easily blow past it and become considerably larger by 2040 or 2050. The Northland with KCMO, Parkville, Liberty, Gladstone etc will pass the 400k mark around 2030.

2000-2010 2000 2010 South entire city
KCMO (Jackson County) 322,747 302,414 302,414 459,544
KCMO (Clay County) 83,972 113,446 Northland
KCMO (Platte County) 34,725 43,684 157,130

2010-2020 2010 2020 South entire city
KCMO (Jackson County) 302,414 283,362 283,362 491,582
KCMO (Clay County) 113,446 153,266 Northland
KCMO (Platte County) 43,684 54,955 208,220

2020-2030 2020 2030 South entire city
KCMO (Jackson County) 283,362 265,510 265,510 541,705
KCMO (Clay County) 153,266 207,062 Northland
KCMO (Platte County) 54,955 69,133 276,195
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Old 01-06-2017, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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Well, the formatting did not work well from excel, so here are the numbers:

2010
Entire City
459,544
Jackson (kcmo only)
302,414
Northland (kcmo only)
157,130

2020
Entire City
491,582
Jackson (kcmo only)
283,362
Northland (kcmo only)
208,220

2030
Entire City
541,705
Jackson (kcmo only)
265,510
Northland (kcmo only)
276,195
Northland (entire Northland)
377,022

Again, these are conservative numbers. I also think the Jackson County portion of KCMO may stabilize or even grow a little due to urban core residential growth, but the Northland will still pass Jackson County, probably sooner than these numbers suggest.

Regardless, the Northland will become the largest suburb under a single city jurisdiction in the metro area passing Overland Park in the next several years.

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Old 01-09-2017, 12:42 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh PA
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Originally Posted by kcmo View Post
Well, the formatting did not work well from excel, so here are the numbers:

2010
Entire City
459,544
Jackson (kcmo only)
302,414
Northland (kcmo only)
157,130

2020
Entire City
491,582
Jackson (kcmo only)
283,362
Northland (kcmo only)
208,220

2030
Entire City
541,705
Jackson (kcmo only)
265,510
Northland (kcmo only)
276,195
Northland (entire Northland)
377,022

Again, these are conservative numbers. I also think the Jackson County portion of KCMO may stabilize or even grow a little due to urban core residential growth, but the Northland will still pass Jackson County, probably sooner than these numbers suggest.

Regardless, the Northland will become the largest suburb under a single city jurisdiction in the metro area passing Overland Park in the next several years.
Geez, didn't know northtown was getting so populated.
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Old 01-09-2017, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Alamogordo, NM
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Geez, didn't know northtown was getting so populated

Me either. We're new to KC, so I'm soaking in the information as much as I can.
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Old 01-09-2017, 11:44 AM
 
Location: KCMO (Plaza)
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Geez, didn't know northtown was getting so populated

Me either. We're new to KC, so I'm soaking in the information as much as I can.
It's growing. I have family north of Liberty in Clay County and they have seen the area grow quite a bit in the last ten plus years. Traffic is quite bad now depending upon the day at 152 and I-35. I do hope more development occurs in historic downtown Liberty and not just more greenfield sprawl outside of downtown though.
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Old 01-09-2017, 06:36 PM
 
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In time, KC's mayor elect will be coming from the Northland and in time, the emphasis and focus on tax spending will be in the Northland.
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Old 01-09-2017, 06:37 PM
 
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Originally Posted by kcmo View Post
Well, the formatting did not work well from excel, so here are the numbers:

2010
Entire City
459,544
Jackson (kcmo only)
302,414
Northland (kcmo only)
157,130

2020
Entire City
491,582
Jackson (kcmo only)
283,362
Northland (kcmo only)
208,220

2030
Entire City
541,705
Jackson (kcmo only)
265,510
Northland (kcmo only)
276,195
Northland (entire Northland)
377,022

Again, these are conservative numbers. I also think the Jackson County portion of KCMO may stabilize or even grow a little due to urban core residential growth, but the Northland will still pass Jackson County, probably sooner than these numbers suggest.

Regardless, the Northland will become the largest suburb under a single city jurisdiction in the metro area passing Overland Park in the next several years.
It would be interesting to see what KC's population portion of Jackson County MO and the Northland was in 1970 when KC's population was at 507,000. The 58 square miles of Jackson County had to be bursting at it seems 46 years ago because there couldn't have been a large number of population living in KC north of the river.
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Old 01-09-2017, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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It would be interesting to see what KC's population portion of Jackson County MO and the Northland was in 1970 when KC's population was at 507,000. The 58 square miles of Jackson County had to be bursting at it seems 46 years ago because there couldn't have been a large number of population living in KC north of the river.
KCMO was twice as dense back then. You can tell the core of the city was once a very dense city.

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In time, KC's mayor elect will be coming from the Northland and in time, the emphasis and focus on tax spending will be in the Northland.
The city has been spending A LOT on the northland in the past 10-15 years. It's the main reason the Northland is booming part of the city is now booming. There is a whole new boulevard system going up in the Northland, street lighting, new schools, new everything. And as I have mentioned before, Northland people don't hate KCMO like you seem to think. They have passed taxes for the zoo, stadiums, even taxes to support free healthcare for Truman Med etc. People will always complain, but everybody I know that lives in the Northland seem to really like it or they wouldn't have bought a home there.
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Old 01-09-2017, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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KCMO was twice as dense back then. You can tell the core of the city was once a very dense city.



The city has been spending A LOT on the northland in the past 10-15 years. It's the main reason the Northland is booming part of the city is now booming. There is a whole new boulevard system going up in the Northland, street lighting, new schools, new everything. And as I have mentioned before, Northland people don't hate KCMO like you seem to think. They have passed taxes for the zoo, stadiums, even taxes to support free healthcare for Truman Med etc. People will always complain, but everybody I know that lives in the Northland seem to really like it or they wouldn't have bought a home there.
I remember when the city first discussed plans for extending the boulevard system north of the river. I was a teenager in high school.

When it was completed in the early 1970s, I-29 to KCI Airport had an off-ramp for one of them, Tiffany Springs Parkway. Until sometime in the 1980s, the ramps led nowhere - just to a short divided highway that extended beneath the underpass and no further.

The city's done quite an impressive job of articulating the boulevard system in the Northland - none more impressive than the transformation of the street I knew as Chouteau Trafficway into Chouteau Parkway. i didn't even realize I was coming up to the bridge over the Missouri until I was on it.
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