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Old 12-06-2012, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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Guys, I get that. I was just (admittedly selfishly) saying that it's a bummer that all the crap we're getting is stuff I'm very "meh" about.
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Old 12-06-2012, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Boilermaker Territory
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Guys, I get that. I was just (admittedly selfishly) saying that it's a bummer that all the crap we're getting is stuff I'm very "meh" about.
I'm not a shopper either, (I'm a saver & investor) so that is just one of numerous reasons why I don't prefer to live in a large metro area. I never understood the excessive conspicuous consumption culture of JOCO as it appears to be permanently trapped in a 1980s yuppie phase. I'm sure the prevailing corporate culture is a big reason why that is.
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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I guess "all is well" for those that like tons of truck traffic and population growth.Perhaps Kansas is trying to lure the rest of the rural residents that are of working age in rural Kansas to move to JOCO now...

Rail center set to open next year is already affecting Gardner, Edgerton | 913

And, the Sunflower land is not really adjacent to the river as it is SOUTH of K-10. The best solution is to have the land completely cleaned up and inspected. Then, various conservation groups should try to raise money and buy up as much of it as possible, or collaborate with the county. JOCO desperately needs more conservation lands that ARE NOT parks. This is a key corridor for wildlife and the last thing that western JOCO needs is more sprawling subdivisions everywhere. Hopefully people will be more proactive instead of letting the developers ruin everything, but that is just my opinion.
Yeah, I wasn't at all saying the SAP land was river land. JoCo should just fully develop, bro. And conservation or farm land should be in Douglass and Miami counties. I think you fail to realize JoCo has grown because of jobs and attractiveness - good development.
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Old 12-07-2012, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Boilermaker Territory
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Yeah, I wasn't at all saying the SAP land was river land. JoCo should just fully develop, bro. And conservation or farm land should be in Douglass and Miami counties. I think you fail to realize JoCo has grown because of jobs and attractiveness - good development.
Disagree. River valley farmland is not the only lands that are valuable. If JOCO wants to keep "claiming" that it is "top tier" than it needs to act like it and offer a WIDE ARRAY of outdoor active and passive recreation opportunities. The county population is over 520,000 and places like Shawnee Mission, OP Arboretum, Kill Creek, etc, are a joke due to the small amount of land vs the number of people that use them... With the national obesity rates at crisis levels and JOCO having more money than other locales they should work on setting up a large conservation fund as well as other private organizations and non-profits. I am for conservation because it keeps land from being developed and keeps RE prices up over time due to a lessening of supply. Fast growth is always bad. KC metro ranks very high in obesity and the more outdoor opportunities that can be created the better. Why do you think Denver always ranks near the top of the list for being the least obese larger metro? A great level of active and passive recreation options nearby with a large plethora of pocket parks in urban areas.
Western JOCO is just fine being more rural without the developers coming in and clearing even more land for very ugly subdivisions. JOCO has a master zoning plan, but your logic is flawed if you think more office parks in the middle of nowhere is a good idea...
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Old 12-10-2012, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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This ought to make you happy GraniteStater:

Johnson County outer loop highway plan builds fresh support - KansasCity.com
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Boilermaker Territory
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Complete idiocy and if ever built will cost an insane amount of taxpayer $$$ to maintain along with all the existing highways in the county, subsidized by the state and federal govt. Highways don't pay for themselves... They can "plan" for this all they want but the quality of life is gone for those that like easier access to rural areas as they are as the BNSF plan will create a new round of massive sprawl, congestion, traffic, and ugliness. There is no way I would ever move back now. Small metros offer a far superior quality of life based on my needs JOCO has no transit options in the cards and no foresight by local organizations, non-profits, etc to raise more money to conserve land. This is a disaster. Land values have likely gone through the roof because of Kansas policies that promote this. JOCO continues to demonstrate that it is not top tier in the least because it is not well-rounded.
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Old 03-19-2014, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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It's interesting to see that St. Louis is also getting an IKEA, which was apparently announced in December. Even more interesting is that it will be in their urban core, at Forest Park Ave and Vandeventer.
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Old 03-20-2014, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Olathe, KS
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Every single "get" that we're getting is stuff that interests me not in the least, unfortunately (IKEA is not my taste or aesthetic, and I could live nine lifetimes without ever seeing another sporting goods store). But I don't pretend to ever be reflective of general opinion norms...pretty much no retail impresses me but bookstores and gourmet food shops.

Oh, I do predict that IKEA will be insanely popular. Just not with people like me.
I know, why can't we have our own version of Powell's here?
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Old 03-20-2014, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Raytown, MO
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If there was an Ikea there right now, I'd be dancing up and down the aisles, lol. I have to find new beds and dressers for 5 children and from what I have seen online their prices are very reasonable. If only....
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Old 03-21-2014, 04:03 AM
 
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I know, why can't we have our own version of Powell's here?
Hear hear! KCMO is ****-poor when it comes to bookstores, especially considering that I moved here from Seattle, which is flooded with great indie stores. Now, exchanging bookstores for BBQ may seem like a fair trade, but not so much. I think a Powell's-type bookstore in the Crossroads would be a winner, so long as it could keep the cost of the space down. Like vinyl, hard copy books are staging a comeback.
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