What is included in Nocatee HOA fees (real estate, 2014)

[NextExit40Miles]

We're trying to narrow down our selection of neighborhoods in the various communities of Nocatee. But so far have not been able to find any info on what is included in the HOA fees. Daniel Park for example is $45/month whereas Artisan Lakes is $332/mo. But what exactly are you paying for ? And what are you getting ?

We've reached out to the 'welcome center' as well as a few realtors but were only given a list of the communities (19) with some basic generalities. Or were told when you come down 'we'll sit down, have some coffee and talk'. That's great but we'd like to know before hand so as not to waste time.

Before we call each community is there a master list available with fees, costs and what is included with each ? Pest control ? Lawn maintenance ? Sanitation ?

$45/mo sounds better than $332/mo unless the $332/mo covers everything and is less than having to cover the Pest control, Lawn maintenance, ect separately. And what would be the costs of these services if done separately ?

Also, could someone shed some light on whether or not NY'ers can travel down to SJ. We've gotten mixed answers on this. Two realtors claim there's 'no problem' and 'some models are open', however News4Jax is reporting Ny'ers are stopped at the border and expected to 'self quarantine' for 14 days. That's fine and understandable, however if that is the case we'd rather wait it out here and do as much research as we can from home instead of sitting in a hotel room for two weeks.

Thanks, NE40

[Johnathon Hills]

The self quarantine is still in effect. It's just too soon to come down.

Wait.

[Thundarr457]

We are unpaid volunteers here. You best source is from the Nocatee Welcome Center, if they don't have the info, we certainly don't. There are 31 different communities with different HOA fees. Your best bet is a Realtor who will be getting paid to provide the info you need.

[vttosta]

The different real estate web sites will usually list HOA fees and what the cover under each listing. The HOA rules are another matter and sometimes hard to get.

[Florida2014]

Unless it's a multi-family residential community, the HOA will cover the basics that nearly every HOA covers. That would not include lawn maintenance or any of your utilities, you as a homeowner would be responsible for those. They are in place to enforce HOA rules and ensure the common areas are maintained.

I believe Artisan Lakes is a senior community so they would obviously cover far more than a traditional HOA. I would go ahead and rule that out.

[Thundarr457]

Artisan Lakes:

This 55+ low-maintenance neighborhood is gated with its own private amenities, which include: clubhouse, fitness center, demonstration kitchen, zero entry pool with infinity edge, 2 pickleball courts, 2 bocce ball courts, event lawn, putting green, swing arbor, and pocket parks throughout. Artisan Lakes is a picturesque neighborhood made up of 196 homesites with a majority backing up to preserve, water or parks.

That is why the HOA is higher. It depends on the amenities and number of homes in the neighborhoods. Coastal Oaks is $156/month and has manned gates and its own amenity center.

[ShakenStirred]

Originally Posted by NextExit40Miles

We're trying to narrow down our selection of neighborhoods in the various communities of Nocatee. But so far have not been able to find any info on what is included in the HOA fees. Daniel Park for example is $45/month whereas Artisan Lakes is $332/mo. But what exactly are you paying for ? And what are you getting ?

We've reached out to the 'welcome center' as well as a few realtors but were only given a list of the communities (19) with some basic generalities. Or were told when you come down 'we'll sit down, have some coffee and talk'. That's great but we'd like to know before hand so as not to waste time.

Before we call each community is there a master list available with fees, costs and what is included with each ? Pest control ? Lawn maintenance ? Sanitation ?

$45/mo sounds better than $332/mo unless the $332/mo covers everything and is less than having to cover the Pest control, Lawn maintenance, ect separately. And what would be the costs of these services if done separately ?

Also, could someone shed some light on whether or not NY'ers can travel down to SJ. We've gotten mixed answers on this. Two realtors claim there's 'no problem' and 'some models are open', however News4Jax is reporting Ny'ers are stopped at the border and expected to 'self quarantine' for 14 days. That's fine and understandable, however if that is the case we'd rather wait it out here and do as much research as we can from home instead of sitting in a hotel room for two weeks.

Thanks, NE40

Alligators are included in the HOA fees. Typically, the higher the fee, the bigger the alligator. And ignore those other posters saying not to come. Y'all come on down, the water is just right!

SS

[NextExit40Miles]

Originally Posted by Johnathon Hills

The self quarantine is still in effect. It's just too soon to come down.

Wait.

Thanks Johnathon. Yes we're trying to stay on top of things here. We have a few News Apps that we check daily, News4Jax , First Coast, ect.
We just didn't see the point in having to sit in a hotel room for 14 days until we're able to get about. So we decided to just wait it out.

Originally Posted by Thundarr457

We are unpaid volunteers here. You best source is from the Nocatee Welcome Center, if they don't have the info, we certainly don't. There are 31 different communities with different HOA fees. Your best bet is a Realtor who will be getting paid to provide the info you need.

Thanks Thundarr. We did try reaching out to the Welcome Center first. They sent us a list of the communities with some general info, prices, builders and such. They also advised us to call each HOA for any further info we needed. We also reached out to several realtors who again just gave us some basic info and also advised us to reach out to each HOA for more specifics.

Speaking of the communities, you mentioned there are 31 however the list the Welcome Center sent consists of only 18. Could you explain why the difference. Are there communities within communities ? i attached the list the Welcome Center sent below...

https://www.nocatee.com/hubfs/Builde...FINAL-2020.pdf

Originally Posted by vttosta

The different real estate web sites will usually list HOA fees and what the cover under each listing. The HOA rules are another matter and sometimes hard to get.

Thanks Vttosta. We did Google around to different Realty Web Sites, but were unable to find any that gave more than just general information. We did find quite a few that listed HOA and CDD fees, but none went as far as to list what was included for those fees. If you have a link to one that does list what is included could you please post it here.

Originally Posted by Florida2014

Unless it's a multi-family residential community, the HOA will cover the basics that nearly every HOA covers. That would not include lawn maintenance or any of your utilities, you as a homeowner would be responsible for those. They are in place to enforce HOA rules and ensure the common areas are maintained.

I believe Artisan Lakes is a senior community so they would obviously cover far more than a traditional HOA. I would go ahead and rule that out.

Thanks Florida2014. We had originally thought that other than common areas the maintenance was the responsibility of the homeowner, until we saw a realtor video that mentioned that Artisan Lakes HOA fees also included Lawn Care and Pest Control. Which lead us to wonder what other HOA's might include in their fees. And if that was a better choice than paying on your own.

Though I see as you mentioned being a 55+ community they would cover more than traditional HOA's. I'll link the video below.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNdM5rkG7Fo


So given that Artisan is $332/mo and they include Lawn and Pest Control is that a good choice compared to a home owner covering costs separately ? What does one pay for Lawn Care and Pest control in SJ ? Also please include any other costs I may have left out.

Originally Posted by Thundarr457

Artisan Lakes:

This 55+ low-maintenance neighborhood is gated with its own private amenities, which include: clubhouse, fitness center, demonstration kitchen, zero entry pool with infinity edge, 2 pickleball courts, 2 bocce ball courts, event lawn, putting green, swing arbor, and pocket parks throughout. Artisan Lakes is a picturesque neighborhood made up of 196 homesites with a majority backing up to preserve, water or parks.

That is why the HOA is higher. It depends on the amenities and number of homes in the neighborhoods. Coastal Oaks is $156/month and has manned gates and its own amenity center.

Thanks again Thundarr. As I wrote to Florida2014 I see that Artisan also includes Lawn Care and Pest Control. So we're wondering if that along with the added amenities is worth the cost difference. Of course having the added Amenities is a personal choice, but having the Lawn Care and Pest Control alone might make it worthwhile (?). Not necessarily for myself, but my parents being seniors might enjoy the added conveniences.

Originally Posted by ShakenStirred

Alligators are included in the HOA fees. Typically, the higher the fee, the bigger the alligator. And ignore those other posters saying not to come. Y'all come on down, the water is just right!

SS

Thanks for clarifying that SS, we had thought the Alligators and Snakes were covered by the CDD

We'd love to come down, we were planning an April/May trip but heard (News4Jax) that FL State Troopers were stopping cars from 'hot spots' and ordering them to self quarantine for a 14 day period. So we decided to wait it out here.

When we do finally get down there we'll be armed with three things, a list of the communities, their costs and fees and a list of SS's recommended builders

[Thundarr457]

There are 31 Communities but some (13) are all built out and only have resales. The 18 they sent you are the ones still building new houses. As far as HOA fees go, if it includes a dedicated amenity center separate from the often crowded Nocatee community center, then that might be worth it. Paying extra to have your grass cut isn't worth it IMHO. You could get it done for around $125 including Pest Control

[NextExit40Miles]

Originally Posted by Thundarr457

There are 31 Communities but some (13) are all built out and only have resales. The 18 they sent you are the ones still building new houses.

I see, thanks Thundarr that's quite a difference.

Originally Posted by Thundarr457

As far as HOA fees go, if it includes a dedicated amenity center separate from the often crowded Nocatee community center, then that might be worth it. Paying extra to have your grass cut isn't worth it IMHO. You could get it done for around $125 including Pest Control

$125 including Pest Control isn't that bad, we were expecting a lot more. So I see it's not really worth it unless you want the separate amenities. But as far as the crowded community center goes, that is a concern. I'll have to pass by the gym at varying hours to get an idea of how crowded it actually is. In these realtor videos they always tape them early in the morn before they open to make them look like no one is there ; )