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Old 09-26-2008, 11:13 AM
 
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Is there any possibility of making a small fortune on the stock market in a short time

I am not specifically refering to this current depression, just any regular day in the markets

I am told that I need to first raise 100k to spread over a wide assortment, and then wait for a few years for dividends, and value to grow?

Does it really take that long?
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Old 09-26-2008, 12:12 PM
 
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Yes, it's possible if you have sufficient capital. The market theoretically goes through 4 stages, each one behaves differently from the others. If you buy at the right stage in the cycle, you would theoretically make money. Remember that it takes a while for the market to go up, but going down is a lot quicker.

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Old 09-26-2008, 12:26 PM
 
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why is stock just a baby compared to the others?
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Old 09-26-2008, 12:43 PM
 
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why is stock just a baby compared to the others?
Sorry I had to edit my first response because I don't think it was appropriate. The stock market is small in size compared to the currency market. But the big difference is the amount of leverage allowed. In currency or commodity trading, a trader can take on a large position with a small initial capital and can potentially make or lose big money in a short time. I read in "Market Wizzards" that Denis Richard, a commodity trader, turned something like $1K into $200M at the height of his career.

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Old 09-27-2008, 06:59 AM
 
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Is there any possibility of making a small fortune on the stock market in a short time
Yes.

Pick 100 day traders and follow them for 5 years.

During that 5-year period, 3 or 4 of those day traders will show a 1-year period within that 5 years, where they made a huge fortune on the stock market.

It does happen.



It is very much like a state lottery. If a million people each put $1 into a daily lottery, and one person's ticket is drawn. That one person does 'win'. They might have actually 'won' $1million. They might get $50k up front and $50k each year on the anniversary of the win, for 20 years. So their total pay-out will total $1million.

A million people pay into the gamble and lose, and 1 'wins'.

I have no doubt that winners do exist.
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Old 09-27-2008, 12:09 PM
 
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why is stock just a baby compared to the others?
"Propped up by lush lines of bank credit, currency speculators can trade billions of dollars while putting up only a fraction of that in their own cash."

This is the kind of leverage I was talking about. The quote is from a NY Time article I linked in ChicagoRon's thread about Forex trading.
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Old 09-28-2008, 06:47 PM
 
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in other words the the commodities, and forex are more dynamic?

things happen quicker and at a much grander scale than ownership of a company?

because really you are buying a tangible product and selling it?
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Old 09-28-2008, 06:51 PM
 
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yes, it's called insider trading
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Old 09-28-2008, 06:57 PM
 
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what exactly is insider trading?

I have a laymen definition, but would like the skinny, and why is it illegal?
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Old 09-28-2008, 07:04 PM
 
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Yes, but your chances of striking it rich are about the same as striking it rich in a casino...especially if you aren't a well-educated and knowledgeable stock trader.

If you are serious. Go to Las Vegas or any other big gambling area, buy a stack of chips for the same amount as you want to use to strike it rich. Then go gamble. The difference is at the casino you will have lovely ladies delivering free drinks to you, and it will be much more fun. Good food, lots of things to do, and it will be much more memorable than dialing in a stock purchase or whatever other investment vehicle you choose with which to hit the jackpot. Good luck and have fun.
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