People complaine that they are losing their jobs to Illegals but the truth is (green card, unemployment)
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I did IT for 6 years, the needed someone who can speak Spanish ( I work with many companies in multiple continents), since I speak Spanish, I can also communicate with people who speak Portuguese and Italian if we both speak slowly. And they couldn't find anyone here to fill in the spot. They actually sponsored quite a few people who could speak Spanish, Portuguese, French or any combination of those languages.
I no longer work on IT though, I am in grad school getting a Ph.D. in engineering, and judging from my class demographics, this is 'job' that U.S. citizens don't want either. More than half of the people I study with are on student visas, and also for most of them English is not their first language. I don't think even for the majority of my teachers English is their first language.
Now, you cannot cite economic reasons for not going through with a Ph.D., unless some very exceptional circumstances apply to you. It is rare to find a Ph.D. student (pre-candidate or candidate) who is paying for his degree out of his own pocket. We even get stipends to cover living expenses, you don't make a lot of money, but it's enough to cover the basics.
They even include health insurance for you and your family in a lot of the packages.
I did IT for 6 years, the needed someone who can speak Spanish ( I work with many companies in multiple continents), since I speak Spanish, I can also communicate with people who speak Portuguese and Italian if we both speak slowly. And they couldn't find anyone here to fill in the spot. They actually sponsored quite a few people who could speak Spanish, Portuguese, French or any combination of those languages.
I no longer work on IT though, I am in grad school getting a Ph.D. in engineering, and judging from my class demographics, this is 'job' that U.S. citizens don't want either. More than half of the people I study with are on student visas, and also for most of them English is not their first language. I don't think even for the majority of my teachers English is their first language.
Now, you cannot cite economic reasons for not going through with a Ph.D., unless some very exceptional circumstances apply to you. It is rare to find a Ph.D. student (pre-candidate or candidate) who is paying for his degree out of his own pocket. We even get stipends to cover living expenses, you don't make a lot of money, but it's enough to cover the basics.
They even include health insurance for you and your family in a lot of the packages.
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A new study argues that the offshoring of U.S. jobs is caused by cost savings and not a shortage of U.S. engineers or better education in China. However, the study warns that the United States is losing its global edge.
A commonly heard defense in the arguments that surround U.S. companies that offshore high-tech and engineering jobs is that the U.S. math and science education system is not producing a sufficient number of engineers to fill a corporation's needs.
However, a new study from Duke University calls this argument bunk, stating that there is no shortage of engineers in the United States, and that offshoring is all about cost savings.
The report concludes by stating that outsourcing will continue to build enough momentum that the next big piece to be offshored is R&D, and that these jobs will require more Masters degrees and PhDs, something China graduates more of in engineering than the United States. The number of Indias engineering PhDs has remained flat, while Chinas has surged, the report said.
The study ultimately found that the United States has a tremendous amount of work to do to keep up, above and beyond fixing K-12 education.
"Even if the nation did everything that is needed, it will probably take 10 to 15 years before major benefits become apparent. Given the pace at which globalization is happening, by that time the United States would have lost its global competitive edge. The nation cannot wait for education to set matters right," said Wadhwa.
Furthermore, even while the education system does improve, the report pressures for a more welcome attitude toward skilled immigrants.
"It is clear that skilled immigrants bring a lot to the United States: They contribute to the economy, create jobs and lead innovation. H1Bs are temporary visas and come with many restrictions. If the nation truly needs workers with special skills, it should make them welcome by providing them with permanent resident status," Wadhwa said.
Both of the links quote the same study. And this is what I defend, extracted from the link you provided.
Did you actually read the articles? Or did you just stop at the title?
Both of the links quote the same study. And this is what I defend, extracted from the link you provided.
Did you actually read the articles? Or did you just stop at the title?
I read it several months ago, but thanks for asking. You implied U.S. citizens are not studying engineering, and that there is a shortage. According to the study, there is no shortage. The sections you bolded don’t change the results of the study. What’s your point?
Outsourcing is ONE way that people, including myself, have lost jobs, but with "The World Is Flat" Thomas Friedmen, Globalist-Mentality, the jobs are supposed to be created in the "Service Based Economy" sector..
That said, the "Service Based jobs" such as fast food, retail, cash station attendant, etc.. are being filled in mass numbers by Illegal Aliens.. Illegal Aliens are NOT only "digging ditches" and picking fruits, but are working in the meat cutting industry, and other assembly work as well as restaurants, etc..
Beleive me, if not for the migrant workers, our country would be in deep depression, I thank them every day.
I did IT for 6 years, the needed someone who can speak Spanish ( I work with many companies in multiple continents), since I speak Spanish, I can also communicate with people who speak Portuguese and Italian if we both speak slowly. And they couldn't find anyone here to fill in the spot. They actually sponsored quite a few people who could speak Spanish, Portuguese, French or any combination of those languages.
I no longer work on IT though, I am in grad school getting a Ph.D. in engineering, and judging from my class demographics, this is 'job' that U.S. citizens don't want either. More than half of the people I study with are on student visas, and also for most of them English is not their first language. I don't think even for the majority of my teachers English is their first language.
You are in Ann Harbor, MI. and the company you worked for had a hard time finding someone? I don't think of Michigan as "international." Places like New York or California are places i think as international. Did they try to hire someone from out of state?
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Originally Posted by Kellem
Now, you cannot cite economic reasons for not going through with a Ph.D., unless some very exceptional circumstances apply to you. It is rare to find a Ph.D. student (pre-candidate or candidate) who is paying for his degree out of his own pocket. We even get stipends to cover living expenses, you don't make a lot of money, but it's enough to cover the basics.
They even include health insurance for you and your family in a lot of the packages.
Wow... that is amazing. I can only hope this happens to me in the future. I am trying to get my AAS to be able to get my foot in the door and have the company provide reimbursement for tuition for my BS.
oh that was a long time ago in the 80s we saw the engineers from india come over , wow I remember the guy had no hands on experience in another words lots books but no real brains. that was right around when we stopped making things in factories in ca. In the old days you got a job and the company would help you get the degree if you showed promise.
All those extra billions each year being siphoned off by Ilegals could have built many a pension and at least living wages for Americans.
Plus the 20 billion a year that has disappeared never to be seen again (remittances).
Just a desperate DREAMie's rants; nothing more.
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