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Old 01-29-2020, 02:52 PM
 
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The field is getting crowded. Venue is a wee bit smaller, there's also the Seltos and Niro at the KIA store.

Venue, Kona, and Elantra GT at the Hyundai store.

Sales go up, sales go down. Go fish at Autotrader for deals. Or look for new 2019 or 2018 and you'll see a base automatic for 15-ish on up. That's advertised price.
Venue has the smaller and weaker engine without a big difference in fuel economy. The Kona is nice but is more of an SUV than the Soul. Elantra GT would be my choice but my next vehicle will have to sit higher for my wife with mobility issues. To me the Soul and Venue are closer in category than the others you listed.
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Old 01-29-2020, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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Venue has the smaller and weaker engine without a big difference in fuel economy. The Kona is nice but is more of an SUV than the Soul. Elantra GT would be my choice but my next vehicle will have to sit higher for my wife with mobility issues. To me the Soul and Venue are closer in category than the others you listed.
I was interested in the Elantra GT but the Soul won the buy by it's easy access and egress.
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Old 01-30-2020, 04:09 AM
 
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I was interested in the Elantra GT but the Soul won the buy by it's easy access and egress.
Yesterday my wife’s Kona was parked next to a Soul. Visually the Soul appeared to be the bigger of the two vehicles with a higher and wider roofline. My next vehicle will take my wife’s mobility into my decision. I like the Elantra but my wife has trouble exiting my car. She has to use the Car Cane to help her up and out. I love her more than I love a machine.
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Old 01-30-2020, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Venue has the smaller and weaker engine without a big difference in fuel economy. The Kona is nice but is more of an SUV than the Soul. Elantra GT would be my choice but my next vehicle will have to sit higher for my wife with mobility issues. To me the Soul and Venue are closer in category than the others you listed.
Agree with all that. I was just casting a wide net while staying this side of the Sportage and Tucson.

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Yesterday my wife’s Kona was parked next to a Soul. Visually the Soul appeared to be the bigger of the two vehicles with a higher and wider roofline. My next vehicle will take my wife’s mobility into my decision. I like the Elantra but my wife has trouble exiting my car. She has to use the Car Cane to help her up and out. I love her more than I love a machine.
Amen. Any day.
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Old 01-30-2020, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Born + raised SF Bay; Tyler, TX now WNY
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IMO the styling is off, especially the front grille.
It’s been off since day one. Not as ugly as some of its fellow (and now-dead) toastermobiles like the Scion xB and Nissan Cube, but...I don’t know how this thing got good sales to begin with. That whole genre makes sense in Japan the way they tax automobiles (I don’t know how Korea taxes cars), but here that whole box car genre is just an eyesore.
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Old 01-30-2020, 10:18 AM
 
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I have a 2020 Soul and love it, including the front styling, but I have to admit that the styling of the back end is not that great. I’m not a big fan of the tail light that encircles the back window.

Well, to start with, tail lights looked like phone handles.
Then, name itself is very steep for a car. Add to it Angel, for example, as another model..
KS was one of those cars that always puzzled me, how something that, pretty much, looks like an iron, can become so popular.



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Old 01-30-2020, 12:53 PM
 
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It’s been off since day one. Not as ugly as some of its fellow (and now-dead) toastermobiles like the Scion xB and Nissan Cube, but...I don’t know how this thing got good sales to begin with. That whole genre makes sense in Japan the way they tax automobiles (I don’t know how Korea taxes cars), but here that whole box car genre is just an eyesore.
For me it's not about the styling, it's about the function. I wish Honda had kept the Element going, would have considered that option. I did look into the used market and they re-sale for a shockingly high price here in the Seattle area.



We agree on the Nissan Cube, that was the ugliest, the scion was okay at first but got uglier over time.
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Old 01-30-2020, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Seeing a Kia Soul in my area is like hens teeth. Maybe people are finally realizing that they are poorly made for the long term. Anything can look great new once. Putting it through the paces for a decade is a true test.
I see many 1st gen Souls around here. But if it's all bimmahs and mercs where you live, that's good too. I've had three Souls and they were/are trouble-free. I can't say the same for a couple of GM and Chrysler products.

That said, I was ALWAYS a sedan guy. I NEVER thought I'd be driving a storage container.
But I drove a couple, then I had one as a rental. Great car, very handy, hauls stuff. Doesn't complain. Loves animals.

It's a quick handler, great brakes, good view out, ++ reliability, quick enough 99% of the time. Utterly reliable. Comfortable for around town or cross country.

The hamster ads were what set this one apart. KIA had great ads for a long time. Now they seem to have decided to join the mediocrity crowd.

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Well, to start with, tail lights looked like phone handles.
Then, name itself is very steep for a car. Add to it Angel, for example, as another model..
KS was one of those cars that always puzzled me, how something that, pretty much, looks like an iron, can become so popular.



To each his own. I don't begrudge others what they drive. Unless they're blowing oil smoke at me.

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For me it's not about the styling, it's about the function. I wish Honda had kept the Element going, would have considered that option. I did look into the used market and they re-sale for a shockingly high price here in the Seattle area.



We agree on the Nissan Cube, that was the ugliest, the scion was okay at first but got uglier over time.
Yup.
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Old 01-30-2020, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Alamogordo, NM
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I love her more than I love a machine.

Yes, I totally agree. And when my wife said she wouldn't be able to ingress and egress a 2016-2019 Ford Fiesta ST, I kept listening. She said she loves Kia Soul's. I said, OK, let's get us a brand new 2020 Kia Soul. I want the base model LX that has the 6-speed stick and Android Auto. It's engine is more powerful than our 2011 Kia Soul base 5-speeds. No more 1.6L I-4, now a 2.0L I-4 with 147hp and 132 ft-pounds of torque.

Watch this YouTube video - he goes over the power and really good handling aspect of the 2020 Kia Soul.

https://youtu.be/OYKJNmjlocY



2020 Kia Soul in Cherry Black
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Old 01-31-2020, 05:09 AM
 
Location: NC
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Venue has the smaller and weaker engine without a big difference in fuel economy. The Kona is nice but is more of an SUV than the Soul. Elantra GT would be my choice but my next vehicle will have to sit higher for my wife with mobility issues. To me the Soul and Venue are closer in category than the others you listed.

To depart slightly from the Soul sales topic, thinking strictly from a mobility standpoint for your wife, my son (no mobility issues) recently went from an Elantra (2013) to a Subaru Crosstrek (2020). One of the first things he mentioned was the additional ground clearance and sitting "up off the road" feel of the Crosstrek. He said going from about 5 inches to almost 9 inches of ground clearance really made a difference getting in and out of the car. He claims the benefits made up for the reduced fuel economy of the AWD in the Subaru. I think he said he went from about 31 / 36 MPG in the Elantra to 29 / 33 in the Crosstrek.
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