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Old 02-08-2019, 09:05 AM
 
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Kia/Hyundai 3.8L DI
Horsepower 291 hp @ 6,000 rpm
Torque 262 lb-ft @ 5,200 rpm

Kia/Hyundai 3.3L DI
Horsepower 290 hp @ 6,400 rpm
Torque 252 lb-ft @ 5,200 rpm

GM 3.6L DI
Horsepower 305 hp@ 6800 rpm
Torque 260 lb-ft@ 2800rpm

Nissan 3.5L DI
Horsepower 300 hp@ 6400 rpm
Torque 261 lb-ft@ 4400rpm

Toyota 3.5L DI
Horsepower 301 hp @ 6600 rpm
Torque 267 lb-ft @ 4700 rpm

Ford 3.5L NA
Horsepower 288 hp@ 6500 rpm
Torque 254 lb-ft@ 4000rpm





Even Fords Smaller non direct injected 3.5L makes the same output as the Kia 3.8L. Wonder why Kia/Hyundai output is always so low on their FWD platform cars. The 2.0Turbo is a whole different discussion alone.
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Old 02-08-2019, 10:08 AM
 
Location: San Ramon, Seattle, Anchorage, Reykjavik
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FWD maybe they do not have a transmission that can handle the torque so they limit it. That being said, I doubt anyone will notice the difference between the Hyundai motor and the Toyota motor in the real world given the tiny spread. They will most likely notice the reliability, as the Toyota engine is light years ahead of anything the cheap and cheerful Hyundai group makes.
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Old 02-08-2019, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, TX
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Surely we all gotta always find a thing to complain about in modern cars, eh?
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Old 02-08-2019, 11:48 AM
 
Location: NNV
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FWD maybe they do not have a transmission that can handle the torque so they limit it. That being said, I doubt anyone will notice the difference between the Hyundai motor and the Toyota motor in the real world given the tiny spread. They will most likely notice the reliability, as the Toyota engine is light years ahead of anything the cheap and cheerful Hyundai group makes.
Very possible...VW does the same thing.

Another possibility is they tuned their 3.8 for a flatter torque curve which sacrifices horsepower. The same engine in the Genesis G80 produces 311 hp.
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Old 02-08-2019, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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Kia/Hyundai 3.8L DI
Horsepower 291 hp @ 6,000 rpm
Torque 262 lb-ft @ 5,200 rpm

Kia/Hyundai 3.3L DI
Horsepower 290 hp @ 6,400 rpm
Torque 252 lb-ft @ 5,200 rpm

GM 3.6L DI
Horsepower 305 hp@ 6800 rpm
Torque 260 lb-ft@ 2800rpm

Nissan 3.5L DI
Horsepower 300 hp@ 6400 rpm
Torque 261 lb-ft@ 4400rpm

Toyota 3.5L DI
Horsepower 301 hp @ 6600 rpm
Torque 267 lb-ft @ 4700 rpm

Ford 3.5L NA
Horsepower 288 hp@ 6500 rpm
Torque 254 lb-ft@ 4000rpm





Even Fords Smaller non direct injected 3.5L makes the same output as the Kia 3.8L. Wonder why Kia/Hyundai output is always so low on their FWD platform cars. The 2.0Turbo is a whole different discussion alone.
So what how much power do you need for a family vehicle my lord you’re not going to drag race anyone. Write the manufacture and ask them if you’re so concerned.
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Old 02-08-2019, 12:18 PM
 
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Surely we all gotta always find a thing to complain about in modern cars, eh?
No, its a valid observation. How is your 3.8L engine only making 1 more HP and 10 lb of Torque than your 3.3L engine.



Im guessing you work for Kia or Hyundai lol
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Old 02-08-2019, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, TX
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No, its a valid observation. How is your 3.8L engine only making 1 more HP and 10 lb of Torque than your 3.3L engine.



Im guessing you work for Kia or Hyundai lol
No, but I am becoming a Kia fanboy
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Old 02-08-2019, 02:26 PM
 
Location: San Ramon, Seattle, Anchorage, Reykjavik
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No, its a valid observation. How is your 3.8L engine only making 1 more HP and 10 lb of Torque than your 3.3L engine.



Im guessing you work for Kia or Hyundai lol
The use of an engine is what drives the power and torque output characteristics for a specific application. The design parameters for the 3.8L engines, as applied to this specific vehicle, may dictate much different performance characteristics than a 3.3L engine in another application. Torque curves, peak HP, fuel economy, cost, physical design characteristics (for instance, what are the intake, cooling, and exhaust constraints?) all may be different.
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Old 02-08-2019, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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No, its a valid observation. How is your 3.8L engine only making 1 more HP and 10 lb of Torque than your 3.3L engine.



Im guessing you work for Kia or Hyundai lol

This question is like saying why is the whopper bigger than the Big Mac, or Wendy’s.
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Old 02-08-2019, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Vermont
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For what it's worth, Honda/Acura for years had two 4 cylinder engines which went into their cars, a 2.0L with ~200HP output, and a 2.4L with ~200HP output. Why bother with a bigger engine if not to add any horsepower?

Because the bigger engine produces that power at lower revs. It's basically a stroked version of the 2L and produces significantly more torque, at the expense of not being able to rev as high. It's typically seen as more desirable in larger vehicles to do this.
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