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Old 03-09-2009, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Yea the current expansion plan is really a drag without the University line.

But one day I hope that there will be longer rail-lines that will connect various suburbs to the houston main line. That would probably not happen for another 10-15 years.
But they won't. Simply because the system will go to slow. Read this link. This echo's what I mentioned in post 13.
Heavy Rail vs Light Rail
Basically even when this is done, Houston will still not have a rapid transit system simplly because it isn't rapid. If or when they do get the commuter rail, I hope it's not the deisel locomotive trains. Those things are so slow that you can throw a BBQ on it. They run these type of trains from Downtown Dallas to Downtown Fort Worth. What should take only 30 minutes in a car takes one hour on the train. Not to mention that you still have to get where you want to go once you get off the train.

I don't mean to sound negative and I apologize if I am. I just think Houston could do better. Although it's probably not their fault. Blame the idiotic leadership for this in the state.
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Old 03-09-2009, 05:35 PM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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METRO had much better plans in store back in the 80s and even 10 or so years ago. Delay and Culberson messed it up big time.
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Old 03-09-2009, 07:10 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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The University Line should still be operational about the same time as the rest of the lines. It is just being held back because of the feds and their bureaucratic financial processes.
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Old 03-09-2009, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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METRO had much better plans in store back in the 80s and even 10 or so years ago. Delay and Culberson messed it up big time.
Is he still in office?
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Old 03-09-2009, 09:58 PM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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Got reelected in the Fall during the elections. I was upset.
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Old 03-09-2009, 10:39 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Here's a map of how our system will look including LRT and Park&Ride service from a transportation blog Intermodality:


http://www.ctchouston.org/blogs/christof/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/metro2012diagram_09-31.jpg (broken link)
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Old 03-09-2009, 11:56 PM
 
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Light rail is a terrible, overpriced boondoggle. The public doesn't support it because they shouldn't. If private industry described their business with the same sugar-coated lies rail planners tell to push approval for light rail, they'd throw them all in jail for fraud. Government, of course, is treated to a different standard.
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Old 03-10-2009, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Light rail is a terrible, overpriced boondoggle. The public doesn't support it because they shouldn't. If private industry described their business with the same sugar-coated lies rail planners tell to push approval for light rail, they'd throw them all in jail for fraud. Government, of course, is treated to a different standard.
So what type of rail system do you prefer, if you prefer it at all? If you do, would you run it underground, or at grade on it's own row?
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Old 03-10-2009, 07:24 AM
 
Location: houston/sugarland
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Light rail is a terrible, overpriced boondoggle. The public doesn't support it because they shouldn't. If private industry described their business with the same sugar-coated lies rail planners tell to push approval for light rail, they'd throw them all in jail for fraud. Government, of course, is treated to a different standard.

It may be sugar-coated and not really as good as it sounds, but it is still necessary; im sure it wont help the traffic or even become useful; but there will be people(like me!) who will use it and finally be able to say "we're out of the dark ages".

I really do believe that people would much prefer to use their cars even with light rail, especially suburban commuters. Why get out of the car and get into a train next to god knows who and not be able to have their own Radio, comfort, etc.

Light Rail wont solve anything, but it should seriously help as far as convenience
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Old 03-10-2009, 12:27 PM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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It may be sugar-coated and not really as good as it sounds, but it is still necessary; im sure it wont help the traffic or even become useful; but there will be people(like me!) who will use it and finally be able to say "we're out of the dark ages".

I really do believe that people would much prefer to use their cars even with light rail, especially suburban commuters. Why get out of the car and get into a train next to god knows who and not be able to have their own Radio, comfort, etc.

Light Rail wont solve anything, but it should seriously help as far as convenience
Those suburban commuters sure have no problem packing the METRO Park and Ride lots every weekday.
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