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Old 08-16-2022, 06:08 AM
 
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Simple question… what are this ratings based on?
Because they are being announced in local news as if they are 100% accurate
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Old 08-16-2022, 06:18 AM
 
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True, but it has been like that in every place and time throughout history. There will always be haves and have nots that are “segregated” in some way. Well, I guess unless someone ascribes to a fantastical utopia that has no basis in reality or possibility and is therefore not a legitimate talking point in pursuing educational goals.
Looks like that Utopia exists in Japan

Japan Might Be What Equality in Education Looks Like

In many countries, the United States included, students’ economic backgrounds often determine the quality of the education they receive. Richer students tend to go to schools funded by high property taxes, with top-notch facilities and staff that help them succeed. In districts where poorer students live, students often get shoddy facilities, out-of-date textbooks, and fewer guidance counselors.

... fewer students in Japan struggle and drop out of school—the country’s high-school graduation rate, at 96.7 percent, is much higher than the OECD average and the high-school graduation rate in the United States, which is 83 percent. Plus, poorer children in Japan are more likely to grow up to be better off in adulthood, compared to those in countries like the U.S. and Britain (though Scandinavian countries lead in this regard). “It’s one of the few [education] systems that does well for almost any student,” Andreas Schleicher, who oversees the OECD's work on education and skills development, told me, adding, “Disadvantage is really seen as a collective responsibility.”
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Old 08-16-2022, 06:58 AM
 
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So... how does DEVERS ISD in nowhere TX rank so high.
Probably the ratio of kids to teachers?
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Old 08-16-2022, 07:27 AM
 
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Japan, LOL. One of the least diverse countries in the world.

Japan is strictly for the Japanese. If you got one drop of anything else in you, you’re a gaijin.
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Old 08-16-2022, 07:38 AM
 
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Japan, LOL. One of the least diverse countries in the world.

Japan is strictly for the Japanese. If you got one drop of anything else in you, you’re a gaijin.
What difference does it make if all kids in a school are white or a mix of colors?
They are still kids that should receive good quality education
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Old 08-16-2022, 07:41 AM
 
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So... how does DEVERS ISD in nowhere TX rank so high.
Probably the ratio of kids to teachers?
Texas will resume grading public schools based on students’ STAAR test results - May 2022

Schools and districts are graded on three criteria: student achievement, student progress and how well the school is closing its learning gaps.
Student achievement and progress weigh the most and STAAR results are how the agency measures progress.
Students are tested on different subjects: reading, math, science and social students.
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Old 08-16-2022, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Schools can only do so much. Parental involvement, family dynamics, home life are vital to a child’s development.
Well, there are those that say that schools should engage in what might be called "family replacement services" where they fill in all the functions that the family is unable or failing to do. Not saying that's a good idea, just providing a perspective that seems common among "activists."
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Old 08-16-2022, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Segregation is still existent, just in a differently form
Before it was by color, now is by income
Kids with wealthy parents get a good education while kids with poor parents get a crappy education.
The per-student spending is (reportedly) often much higher in schools that have lots of low-income students. Is that funding being spent badly? What is it that schools with lots of well-off parents are doing that's different, especially if they don't get more funding per student?

I know some folks have charged that it's because of the PTO/school-based nonprofit that the parents donate to that funds "auxiliary" stuff. Some activists have said such practices are unfair and donations should be required to be allocated to a "Robin Hood" scheme like with tax revenue. Seems like that might be controversial.
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Old 08-16-2022, 08:50 AM
 
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The per-student spending is (reportedly) often much higher in schools that have lots of low-income students.
Ok, let's give them all the same funding per student
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Old 08-16-2022, 01:10 PM
 
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The per-student spending is (reportedly) often much higher in schools that have lots of low-income students. Is that funding being spent badly? What is it that schools with lots of well-off parents are doing that's different, especially if they don't get more funding per student?

I know some folks have charged that it's because of the PTO/school-based nonprofit that the parents donate to that funds "auxiliary" stuff. Some activists have said such practices are unfair and donations should be required to be allocated to a "Robin Hood" scheme like with tax revenue. Seems like that might be controversial.
Lower SES students cost more to educate, because their parents are not as involved as much as parents of higher SES schools. Some of that is because lower SES parents often work multiple jobs, some of it is a failure to understand how much parents can help with their children's education, some of it is that the parents are not well educated, and have no ide what to do, and some is that the parents just don't care.

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Ok, let's give them all the same funding per student
Unless there are special programs providing extra funding, schools are funded on a per student basis by the State, along with basic per student funding by HISD. Other districts operate differently than HISD, which generally gives principals a lot of leeway to control their budgets. When HISD had extra money for wrap around services and for reading and math tutoring for lower SES students, there were obvious increases in test results.

The STAAR test is a really awful test. It's often not grade appropriate, and many questions make cultural assumptions that aren't true.
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