Katy/Cypress flood zones (Houston, Hempstead: hotel, house, buy)

[Failed Engineer]

Originally Posted by dd1153

Newer development... newer infrastructure... both developments made it through Tax Day Floods & Harvey Floods. That’s 3 historical floods.

Neither in flood plane areas / do not require flood insurance.

What else could you possibly want?

Wait until upstream development hits. You'll be fine until then.

[new to this]

Originally Posted by Failed Engineer

Wait until upstream development hits. You'll be fine until then.

I thought there was mention of not building out all the land surround those subdivisions to prevent them flooding. Is this not the case?

[96tahoe]

Originally Posted by new to this

I thought there was mention of not building out all the land surround those subdivisions to prevent them flooding. Is this not the case?

There is but it hasn't happen yet including in this conversation & mention in previous threads the proposed 3rd reservoir


https://www.houstonchronicle.com/new...w-12774743.php

[dd1153]

Originally Posted by Failed Engineer

Wait until upstream development hits. You'll be fine until then.

So based on this logic you would buy, then wait until upstream development happens, then move upstream
Repeat?

Wouldnt this be the case for _ANY_ new development, city wide?

[crone]

Unless they are putting in huge retention ponds, every little bit of fill is displacing water that would have gone there.

When the developer raises a whole subdivision several feet, where will the water the formerly went there gonna go? Downstream onto someone who has never flooded.

This whole raise the foundation about the 100 or 500 flood plain plan is BS. It is just going to flood everybody else downstream

[travelguy_73]

Originally Posted by crone

Unless they are putting in huge retention ponds, every little bit of fill is displacing water that would have gone there.

When the developer raises a whole subdivision several feet, where will the water the formerly went there gonna go? Downstream onto someone who has never flooded.

This whole raise the foundation about the 100 or 500 flood plain plan is BS. It is just going to flood everybody else downstream

This. The new neighborhoods are generally fine NOW, but they won't be new and alone in the prairie for long. Now if they didn't bring in fill, and instead used pier/beam to raise the house, then that's better for everyone in the long-term.

[dd1153]

Originally Posted by crone

Unless they are putting in huge retention ponds, every little bit of fill is displacing water that would have gone there.

When the developer raises a whole subdivision several feet, where will the water the formerly went there gonna go? Downstream onto someone who has never flooded.

This whole raise the foundation about the 100 or 500 flood plain plan is BS. It is just going to flood everybody else downstream

Have you been to Elyson recently?
The entire development has creeks, green space, Lakes & retention

[new to this]

Originally Posted by crone

Unless they are putting in huge retention ponds, every little bit of fill is displacing water that would have gone there.

When the developer raises a whole subdivision several feet, where will the water the formerly went there gonna go? Downstream onto someone who has never flooded.

This whole raise the foundation about the 100 or 500 flood plain plan is BS. It is just going to flood everybody else downstream

So based on your theory, all the new subdivision further up 529 towards Katy Hockley cut off (Castle rock, and the other subdivision) once built up their water would run off and flood Elyson despite homes in Elyson being elevated over the 100 yr flood zone? Wouldn't the retention pond in Elyson prevent that from happening?

[Sollaces]

Elyson is a master planned community. It's going to cover acres. It's being built near roads that are known to flood. 529 there floods. Katy Hockley floods. A flood / rain event lasts a few days and if you're find not being able to get our of your subdivision, then Elyson is a place for you. I'll add that the closest way to get around is on a toll road (SH 99). Even SH99 flooded and the areas around it during .. 2016? Was that the one? I remember driving up SH99 and many of the off ramps were barricaded off due to high water. People couldn't get home.

A good rule of thumb is live farther away from the rivers which can flood. The Brazos is one. You couldn't pay me to live downstream in Simenton.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8RQcFMDXSk (2015)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StdQsnOnPTM (2016)
Residents 'shattered' by Harvey's impact in Simonton | abc13.com (Sorry for the ads - After Harvey)


I'd say do your homework, go online, look up streets, subdivisions, go on social media, the HOA site, see if you can find information on the area you're looking at. Go to YouTube and look for flood videos. I know Bridgeland has at least one on there.

Now Conroe was hit hard by one of those earlier floods. No, not all parts of Conroe. But there are two super sites for hazardous waste there (EPA). There was mention of seals broken on a waste dump site. Not sure the update on that.

https://www.texastribune.org/2017/09...ic-waste-site/

https://www.epa.gov/superfund/search...where-you-live

I won't live near one of these EPA dump sites. I wouldn't live anywhere close to them if a hurricane or flooding carries the contaminates downstream. With hurricanes you never know what'll happen. I'd rather play it safe, myself.

Even if only the street floods and not the house, you're still trapped in your home, you may be without power, and your lives are disrupted until the water goes down. The water is not safe to play in. There are fire ants, snakes, and contaminates in it. On a personal level you may/may not lose income or your job. Can you survive sheltering in place or evacuating in another city? Can you live with the uncertainty, the stress? Are you prepared to lose the home you worked hard to own? What if a health crisis hits and you can't get help?

[crone]

Originally Posted by new to this

So based on your theory, all the new subdivision further up 529 towards Katy Hockley cut off (Castle rock, and the other subdivision) once built up their water would run off and flood Elyson despite homes in Elyson being elevated over the 100 yr flood zone? Wouldn't the retention pond in Elyson prevent that from happening?

Nobody who bought their house 20-40 years ago thought they would flood either.

Check out the 'string of pearls parks' along Cypress Creek that were supposed to flood and keep the buildings dry.

What happened on Stuebner Airline? That was the second time in as many years. Couple that with the subsidence and what do you get?

The subdivision I recently left was a couple blocks from the creek. According to my neighbor, who retired from the Galveston Corp, said it would never flood when it was built in 84. Well guess what? We got out just in time. The water stopped one house away from our old house. Everything on the cul de sac flooded.

Thinking we were smart, we bought upstream. We have tons of open space, retention ponds, detention ponds Between the highway and all the warehouses on Hempstead Hwy dumping runoff in White Oak Bayou, I suspect before long we will flood.

The county does not require commercial to put in retention pounds.

Those new MPC communities sitting out in old rice fields will look a hell of lot different when commercial moves in.

Commissioner Cagle gave a little run down of Harris county in his testimony at the hearing Monday. Harris county population will double in size in the next 20 years. Where will they all live? Where will the water go? Do you thinks builders are gonna dig a hole to China in their bright shiny new MPCs to save them from flooding?