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Old 08-25-2012, 01:47 PM
 
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I live in Oklahoma. The crawl space has a dirt floor that goes from four feet high in the south to ten inches in the North. (slopes up hill}. I have an infestation of small black moths that appear when the dirt becomes moist - or the air is humid. I have spread lime dust over the area that I can reach but the bugs return after a few weeks. 100% plastic vapor barrier would be difficult due to the inclined floor, being dirt, it is not even or free of large imbedded rocks. Anyone have a idea how to install a barrier that would get rid of the bugs?
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Old 08-25-2012, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Johns Creek, GA
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Anyone have a idea how to install a barrier that would get rid of the bugs?
Yeah, a pest control man.
Then figure out where the water is coming from- grade issue, excessive rain, ground water, etc.

Your typical vapor barrier is 6ml poly, over lapping joints, and up the foundation walls. The best would be encapsulation. Which is usually done with foam.

And how small are the "moths"? 'cause I got a snicky suspicion that those "moths" are sewer flies.
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Old 08-28-2012, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Nesconset, NY
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I live in Oklahoma. The crawl space has a dirt floor that goes from four feet high in the south to ten inches in the North. (slopes up hill}. I have an infestation of small black moths that appear when the dirt becomes moist - or the air is humid. I have spread lime dust over the area that I can reach but the bugs return after a few weeks. 100% plastic vapor barrier would be difficult due to the inclined floor, being dirt, it is not even or free of large imbedded rocks. Anyone have a idea how to install a barrier that would get rid of the bugs?
First thought to mind: sprayed concrete...the kind of application used to create free-form concrete structures over inflatable forms.

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Old 08-28-2012, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Johns Creek, GA
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What's to keep the shotcrete from absorbing ground moisture then expelling it through evaporation? Well, that kindda didn't work did it? Unless you put a vapor barrier down first. And if you did, what's the point of the shotcrete?
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Old 08-28-2012, 07:08 PM
 
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You might look into mobile home vapor barrier recommendation that they use when skirting the mobile home. Wihout the barrier mositrue can cause mold problems with mobile homes.Might do a serch on internet for type ;recommendations.
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Old 09-09-2012, 06:32 AM
 
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one additional bit of information I forgot to put in the first post: The only entrance to the crawl space is a 3 x 3 door in the middle of the house. that makes it difficult to use spray foam or concrete. We have had pro bug exterminators attempt to eradicate the bugs - but after a short period (3 -4 months) the bugs are back just as strong as before. I'll look into the MH vapor Barrier.
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Old 09-09-2012, 10:42 AM
 
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Lime is good, boron products like boric acid or even borax are better. There are also pelletized insect treatments. Your problem may stem from not being able to get good coverage in the tight area. Think "wand" - like a length of electric conduit, a compressor with an air blast tool, and some sort of feed hopper.

The fabric used under manufactured homes might help, but you would have similar installation issues as with plastic.
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